I get very little scent from Sombreuil (the large-flowered climber). Occasionally its scent wafts down the side yard where it's planted, but that's it. SDLM is only faintly fragrant to me, too. Blush Noisette is said to be one of the most fragrant, and I barely get anything from it. My allergies diminish my sense of smell, I know. Visitors come to the cemetery rose garden declaring that the scent bowls them over as soon as they get out of the car, and I barely notice it. I had a few days of sinus clarity this spring, and was astonished at the fragrance. The damask scent, fortunately, penetrates my congestion, as do musks and a few of the teas. Anita

I grow lots of the roses you list, but I do spray monthly and have no disease problems at all with any of them as long as I have had them and am faithful to the spray schedule. Here is what I have found out about these roses when I have been behind spraying for several months like last Fall when I was in hospital all Fall season. 23x Double Delight (creamy white swirled with strawberry red) NO MILDEW OR BS WHEN NOT SPRAYED-GREAT ROSE 23x Mr. Lincoln (dark red) CAN MILDEW WITHOUT SPRAY 15x Fragrant Cloud (coral red) CAN MILDEW VERY SLIGHTLY 13x Chrysler Imperial (burgundy red) FAIRLY RESISTANT 13x Gertrude Jekyll (rose pink) 13x Jude the Obscure (honey) 10x Crimson Glory 10x Lemon Spice (patel yellow tinted pale pink) 9x Abraham Darby (Austin, apricot blend) 9x Francis Dubruiel (dark true red) 9x Papa Meilland (dark red) WILL BS AND MILDEW W/OUT SPRAY 8x Evelyn (Austin, apricot pink blend) 8x Heirloom (dark mauve blend) VERY GOOD RESISTANCE FOR ME 8x Rose de Rescht (vivid fuchsia) 8x Secret (white tipped pink) WILL MILDEW W/OUT SPRAY 8x Sharifa Asma (Austin, pearly pink) 8x Sunsprite (bright yellow) GET JULIA CHILD INSTEAD!!!! 8x Sweet Chariot (purple blend) 8x Tiffany (pink/yellow blend) GREAT RESISTANCE/GREAT ROSE! 7x Angel Face (1968, dusky mauve) PM AND BS MAGNET FORGETABOUTIT!!! 7x Melody Parfumee (deep plum fading to clear lavender) VERY RESISTANT AND HEALTHY. WONDERFUL BLOOM AND FRAGRANCE. 7x The McCartney Rose (ruffled, few petals) FAIR RESISTANCE 7x Yves Piaget (Romantica, hot pink) 6x Granada (yellow, orange, scarlet tricolor) BS AND MILDEW 6x Just Joey (clear apricot) 6x Mirandy GOOD RESISTANCE 6x Scentimental (white striped with red) VERY GOOD RESISTANCE AND BEAUTIFUL FRAGRANT BLOOMS FOR ME 6x Secret Garden Musk Climber 6x Zephirine Drouhin (cerise pink) MILDEW!!!!!! MIGHT I SUGGEST YOU TRY JULIA CHILD, DAYBREAKER, OUR LADY OF GUADALUPE, AND POPE JOHN PAUL II FOR GREAT GARDEN ROSES? I DON'T THINK YOU WOULD BE SORRY.... JOHN

Hi Diane, thanks for your comment. I don't think our climate is that similar as my is so hot for so long. However I think we may have similar noses as we seem to enjoy similar roses for scent. Yes I have alkaline sandy soil. Our bore water has a pH of 9!! I have to keep adding acid and trace elements to the soil to keep the garden green. I do have an Angel Face and it does smell good too but not as consistently as the above mentioned roses. I've just ordered a Young Lycidas today as well! Heard some good comments about its scent. I will keep you posted. Many of my roses are not scented in the first year. PAOK is one of them. It flowers a lot and I hope it will become fragrant next year. I smelled one at a rose show earlier this year and it did have a very strong perfume and a note which I enjoy. Beverly also took a year to produce perfume. Do you cut the Augusta Luise? I cut them when they are half open and keep them indoors. As they open in the vase overnight they become very strongly scented and the scent will last for about 3 days. I got this rose because of its perfume alone. I smelled a vase of these at a rose show and they smelled like strong pot pourri. Everyone was in awe of its fragrance. I knew I had to grow one.

Most fragrant Tea-Noisettes: Top T-N for both type of scent and strength of scent:Duchesse d'Auerstadt A vendor was selling a row of huge plants (budded onto root stock) of Duchess d. A. at the Old Rose Celebration a few years ago and all the large plants were in full bloom and I was kicking myself for having ran out of cash for it was the most fragrant of any Tea-Noisette I'd ever smelled at vintage gardens or at s.j. h. rose garden... The apricot colored blooms with a touch of pink were large and luscious and scented of stone fruit, and Musk rose, heady and seductive... at that moment I wondered why so many people favor Reve d'Or in comparison. FFFF, out of five. ___________ Marachal Niel, almost as fragrant, as the Duchesse, I bought my M.N. from Rogue Valley. My favorite yellow rose, and if it were the only yellow rose in the world I might be content, I adore it so much. FFF and 1/2 out of five. on some enchanting and rare afternoons it's as strongly scented as FFFF. ____________ Celine Forestier. It's 2016 and the plant is c. seven years old, it came from Rogue Valley and it blooms fully in spring, however rebloom in summer and autumn is only c. 25- 30 percent of the spring flush. It has a really lovely refined fragrance that is dependable, under all conditions and more than moderate in strength. If only I could find a well repeating clone. FFF and 1/2 out of five. __________________ Mme. Alfred Carriere, from hortico.com c. 7 years ago, moderate fragrance, dependably fragrant. FFF __________________ Reve d'Or sweet rose scent overlaid with Musk Rose. FF and 1/2 out of five. from Rogue Valley roses. _____________________ I can only rarely detect any scent from the Lamarque that I bought from A.R.E., it has a slight lemon scent scent with a meadow finish... and it's foliage is not nearly as pretty as the one at Morcom Amphitheare of Roses labeled California 'Lamarque' .The blooms are very beautiful but it's not the rose I so fiercely desired. FF out of five. ______________ Crepescule from vintagegardens.com variable fragrance strength under different conditions. F to FF and 1/2 out of five. __________________________________ I never bought Jaune Desprez because it smells strongly of bananas to me, a nice scent but not what I'm looking for in a rose. That is a darling photo of Bouquet d'Or. Luxrosa