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Ah, obviously a lost in translation term, rosecanadian.. A water butt is what we call a large, usually plastic, container connected to the rainwater down pipe coming off the roof but can mean any container or tank for collecting rainwater. What do you call yours?!
We call them totes....as in water totes. We have 3 really large ones.
Water butt...I'll have to tell my hubbie that. lol
I passed on that variety because some of the mature plant height photos on HMF are.. uh... more than tall. I went for Huddersfield Society Choir or w/e its called. I hate both names. HCS is less double but hasnt balled on me.
I have one flourishing in essentially full shade with a ton of buds. It is under open sky but the sun beams never really directly hit it due to the position of the building next-door. I didn't have space for it in the fall so just stuck it in a pot in a holding pattern until spring, and am really sort of amazed it seems so happy in that spot (so it's staying there). Very few roses would seem to bloom like that with so little direct sun? I feel that both my own root and grafted ones are taking off with little effort on my part. (In Europe, there is different rootstock than in the US). For the moment, they are short and bushy, so good for the front of a border (or a pot).
I put together this tour of my front yard today! I had intended it the video to be about 5 minutes, but it took 20! I am slow and verbose.
I will wait then. I wonder when I should consider LOS to be out of ICU. She is doing very well considering it barely had any root left - putting out new growth, etc - but I want her to focus her energy on building roots.
Would leaving her alone, with water only, do that?
I might prune Savannah down to the green and wait. If it all turns black, you really tried. Something can be happening below ground.
Artist, maybe wait until LOS blooms, and then do a quarter-strength soluble fertilizer? One of the reasons we don't want to fertilize newly rooted cuttings or newly planted bare roots (of course in addition to not burning their new delicate roots) is that new young roots will continue to grow in search of food. I think it's better to keep them growing in search of food for awhile :-D
Artist, I think you should go with your gut, which is telling you "better safe than sorry." As someone who has only experience RRD once, I can't claim to be close to an expert. But the photos you posted seem to show bizarre, distorted, uncharacteristic growth for a drift rose, including red, strap-shaped leaves and fleshy sepals or leaves around the buds. Plus you have the characteristic witch's broom growth. You have multiple symptoms pointing to potential RRD.
I can find these sorts of decisions agonizing, but I have a feeling you'll feel better if you remove the affected plants. If The Fairy is close enough that its roots or leaves might be touching/intertwined with the affected drift roses, I'd remove it, as well. Make sure to remove all roots.
I can't speak to miticides or other methods to prevent spread.
Edited to add: If you have a local rose society or botanical garden, you could try sending them photos to see what they think. My nearby botanical garden invites gardening questions and has been remarkably friendly/helpful.
That's not a rose, Artist. It's something in the bramble family, probably blackberry.
The weather lately was too good to last. Classic Colorado. But with any luck all the rain and snow we got will help boost more spring growth to compensate for any damage sustained.
Sad for the roses but beautiful to look at and be in. I hope they weren't too far advanced. And won't be set back by much.
mmmm - I'm really happy that the snow didn't do any damage. :) :) Everything looks great!
I wanted to add, that's an early bloom and slightly deformed, and doesn't show the flowers at their best, which is what they usually are.
RBEHS, you may be right about foliage and mossing, but the habit is very different from 'Common Moss', which I grow. CM has a lanky, open habit and gets tall; my mystery moss is low-growing and suckering, with upright growth. In habit it resembles a Gallica, but its general bristliness and mossiness, and its foliage, are entirely un-Gallica-like, at least to my eyes.
Jackie, you're right: it is a happy rose.
@Lakshmi S I raised Annie Laurie McDowell from seed. It first flowered in 1994. In the past thirty years, I have found ONE prickle on any of the plants I have grown, groomed and propagated. Prickles are natural for roses to have. The lack of them is the oddity. Historically, it is common for "thornless" roses to produce some canes with them. Reine des Violettes, one of the most famous of the old "thornless" roses, is known for producing canes with prickles. It's also theorized that in order for it to remain prickle free, you have to propagate from prickle free canes. So, would I worry finding those small prickles? Probably not. Hopefully, as it matures, they won't continue. In any case, it will be interesting seeing how it works out.
I agree with roseseek, and would add one comment - many roses are said to be "thornless" by sellers, when in fact they are not. They should be labelled "almost thornless", or "less thorny than most roses", or something similar IMO. I have grown a lot of roses, and the only ones I have ever personally grown on which I have never, ever, seen a thorn ("prickle" is the technically correct term) are Lady Banks Yellow rose, and Schmidt's Smooth Yellow.
Jackie
Thank you for taking the time to write to me. She is growing now with the beautiful spring weather. i will keep you all updated.
We had no winter this year, and our flowering schedule was likewise pretty different from what I've been accustomed to over the years. With climate change I guess we can expect more of the unexpected.
Your garden looks wonderful (meaning, full of wonders). I kind of like your 'Dr. Rouges'.
Regarding color so much depends on where you live, the sunlight, the lot size, color/style of house and the other plant materials. I find bright colors on my large lot, where you see alot at a distance, with our high altitude sunlight, and lots of xeriscape/rock to be very appealing to me. As a result I have alot of saturated colors. Bright white also plays very well.
One of my favorites is Fred Loads because I can see it from the road.
What doesn't work are the dusky colors. My Denver's Dream and Love Song are examples of colors that don't work well here. They are both beautiful roses but feel a bit flat when I look at them in the garden.
Love Song, is the front center dusky lilac rose. It just sort of disappears in our sunlight. Whenever I have people over and offer to cut them a rose nobody ever picks it.
Livin Easy is probably the most chosen rose.
The most commented on bush is Amiga Mia.
Because of our large lot I also tend to plant in groups where there are large areas of the same thing. When we bought the house everything was in singles and all mixed together. It read very chaotic but that look plays very well in English garden style plant beds. Ours is more akin to public park style due to the lot size.
I would think in areas that get alot more cloud cover, hazy rainy days that the more subtle colors would look the best and my saturated colors would look out of place.
I'm constantly amazed at how spectacularly beautifully all your roses (and other plants, like the crab-apple) seem to combine colour- and general appearance-wise. I believe I recall you saying you really don't put a lot of thought into it, and that it's all just a series of happy accidents. But I often see accidental combinations in other gardens that simply don't work as well as yours. I feel there must be some magical secret spells at work in your garden, that make everything not only grow so huge and healthy (possibly attributable in part at least to near perfect rose climate, along with so many decades of gardeners' loving cultivation) but also - 'accidentally' - consistently so harmonious in appearance. Do you or your forbears practice any type of witchcraft by any chance, Jackie? Nocturnal full moon ceremonies, buried rams horns, or sprinkling of specially blessed good karma-infused waters, perhaps...? Just curious... :-D
Hee, hee - no magic, I am afraid, except the long passage of time. I thought about it, and the one thing I came up with is that the plants in our garden are allowed to get mature, and mostly encouraged to grow how they want. Many times they only get to their most beautiful when they are at least 5 or 6 years in the ground, and sometimes much older. Also, if they start doing strange things (there are several rose bushes which have morphed into climbers over time, for example, even though they were not "supposed" to be climbers), we just let them be. I am always curious to see what they will do.
Our flowering crab apple tree is the largest I have seen around here, and I am told by my DH's family that it was planted in the 1940s or so. It just keeps getting bigger and better. We never do anything to it, except that we did remove a few of the lower branches at the order of our Fire Dept.
The climate, of course, allows that long term growth to happen, along with the good soil, and the fact that the property has been in the same family so long. This causes a sort of feeling that if one of my DH's ancestors planted something which is still healthy, I should leave it to thrive as long as it can. (When we first moved in here, there was a giant eugenia tree - 40-50 ft tall - dropping fruit maybe 10 months of the year, right on the front brick path which leads to our front door. Being a new homeowner, I convinced my DH that we should remove it. My FIL was alive at that time, and his reaction to my DH was " Your Grandmother LOVED that tree..." - end of plan to remove the tree.) Also, anything fussy or unhappy which needs constant care or spraying dies, which leaves only the happy plants.
I am not a garden planner, or designer of perfect spaces who removes and replaces every plant which does not comply with the original design. One funny example of that is the oval bed which my DH carefully cut out of our lawn, and put a brick edging around. It was the only space I actually ever tried to "plan" seriously. The plan was to have one tree rose, surrounded by tiny miniature rose bushes. Ha! One of the "miniatures" turned out to be no such thing, and immediately climbed over the top of the tree rose. It gets bigger and bigger every year, and I love it (the tree rose is still getting bigger and blooming happily alongside and sort of under it). Last year I noticed that one of the actual original miniature roses I planted around the bottom of the tree rose (which did stay maybe 18 inches tall for many years) has suddenly become a climber and leaped up to the top of the tree rose! Luckily it still has thin canes and tiny blooms, so it is just pretty, not overwhelming. The other thing which has happened in that oval is that of course the roses are fooling around, and producing hybrid volunteers, some of which are gorgeous! I suspect the partial shade has something to do with the urge to get tall, but who knows? I just enjoy the result.
Jackie
How adorable! They look so sweet in your flower forest! She must trust you quite a bit to bring her babies around.
We see mamas and baby deer wayy at the back of the goat pastures near the woods. The baby deer always seem real interested in the baby goats when they are playing back there. The momma deer don't let their bsbies get real close though. We have white tail deer here and not mule deer.
My favourites are your SPECTACULAR Fortune's Double Y and the clematis. Which one is that, Jackie?
Beautiful!
bart bart - sorry - I have enough trouble keeping track of roses I plant or move - I don't keep records of other types of plants. I love that clematis too, but have no idea who it is. it is over 10 years old by now. I have tried a lot of different types of clematis, but have decided that I like large single dark purple ones MUCH better than the others.
Jackie
Yes, I'm planning to sell plants on ebay starting this coming Saturday. I usually list plants every Sat. afternoon as auctions and they last a week. I will have some fixed price listings as well. I'm sorry to say that I'm adding a few states to the list of states I don't ship to. I will be adding TX, MS, AL, and AR to that list.
Here is a map of which states require treatment of the roots to prevent the spread of Japanese beetles, and those that don't. I dislike dealing with the insecticide and want to just sell to states that don't require that. I will be shipping to the green and grey states on the map below but not to Canada. ( never have shipped to Canada)
Some nurseries in Japanese beetle country don't have to treat with insecticide or bare -root plants because they grow their plants in a beetle proof greenhouse. I may try to get such a greenhouse but for now I don't have one.
I heard from my agriculture inspector recently and he said that in 2025 my county will be designated as infested with fire ants, so I would have to treat the roots with a certain insecticide for those or else just ship to states south of NC. I am leaning towards only shipping to states south of NC for next year. It would be a very limited number of states I can ship to but it's still lots of people in those states. I will give that a try for 2025. I am semi-retired anyway. I did propagate a good selection of roses to sell on ebay this year.
Last year some of my plants were bid up quite a bit more than usual but I suspect this year may be different.
As far as Spotted Lantern Fly goes my ag inspector says they are not in our county yet.
@KittyNYz6 that's great, but your mistake here is to assume that others are somehow less skilled or more anonymous. I don't see any facts at all in your comments; they are mere opinions and hold no more weight than any other comments.
Kitty, I can’t believe that you’re implying that this business is making an ‘earnest attempt’! I live in one of the places where we were supposed to get roses in February. But weeks after making posts about starting to ship and big boxes, absolutely NO ONE had received their orders.
I started getting suspicious and reached out to them via multiple mediums. The only one Nate responded to was a rude reply to my chargeback . Much later in their post about crop failures, the timeline they mentioned coincided with the time they had communicated with me. There was no mention of any alternative, just chiding me for starting a charge back.
Please DO NOT discount customers’ dissatisfaction and earnest attempts to make things right! We all have families and our own troubles, which does NOT involve trying to mislead people!!
But they weren't running a business.
Businesses sell things-- the only things they have sold are dreams.
This excuse that "all small businesses have it tough in the beginning" are for places like family-run mini marts that are struggling to survive on profits.
There is zero reason that money should not have been in a trust account until product has been shipped. Obviously one or both of them should have had another job to pay their bills-- not using money that wasn't theirs yet. That's what makes this fraudulent, and not "a struggling small business" .
I think the rose you received looks fine. I have five year old own-root roses (propagated by me and purchased from vendors) that don't look remotely like that pic you posted from Reddit. Also, there is no such thing as a "shank" on an own-root rose... that is a specific term referring to a grafted rose.
It seems there is some confusion about how own root roses grow, since they are not grafted there is no ’shank’ that needs to be buried. Nor is there a single ’crown’ that the rose grows from. Its an own root rose so more limbs will come from the roots in the ground and that will result in branching from the ground over time. Also, rose plants come in all shapes, some roses are naturally bushier than others.
I must say compared to that one order that Garden Roses LLC sent out, these Heirloom Roses all look like giant sequoias! Lol!