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Roses do best with rich poting soil, or rose specific soil mix. Roses planted in the ground alsalso ddo bbest wwhen they have ssome rich poting soil or soil mix for roses, mixed in with natural soil and a little compost like rotting leaves. You can a add some worm castings to your roses you just planted to help give them some extra nutrition. and y can also try the fish emulsion fertilizer to help stimulate root and foliage growth.
That is my dou delidelight rose this year af neanearly dydying in 2023 from excessive summer heat. i reppoted it with rose soil mix and gave it some fish emulsion fertilizer. Looks really great now! BIG blooms now too.
strawchicago, that is correct, as of now JC is nice, as they heat pick up it will lose that deep yellow, i'm fixing to replace grande dame lol, as a hybrid tea it's too droopy, not easy to use it as cut flowers, light scent and way more vigor than Gabriel Oak, my Neil Diamond got eaten by deers and rabbits so it's struggling to take off
Yes, March and April are our snowiest months. We are advised to not prune our roses until after Mother's Day. This is to protect the living portions by using the dead cane as a buffer and to not stimulate the new growth yet. Sometimes we will get a big snow storm after Mother's Day but it isn't common. Hail is more likely.
I love button hole rose !! very healthy leaves too.
I grow both Constance and Juliet too, and agree with your assessment, Constance is easier and more disease resistant than Juliet. But those bloom on Juliet are a real ’wow’, she has quality and substance like no other Austin.
Your DEO, is looking really good, Jim. It's a great little rose and I love mine. I hope yours is a bloom machine like mine was, and the color of this rose is such a pleasant orange. I really need to get a second Orange Dude. Keep us posted on how yours progresses. I need to take some new pics of mine as it gets ready to bloom this season. Diane/Nanadoll
My Orange Dude
June
July
August, and so on. Jim, your rose will be blooming all summer just like this one. Good luck.
missmary, plastic, here's the link https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B096H887LC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
pink rose, here's a thorny one for you, the king of thorns. after dealing with this one, everything else seem thornless
pink rose, i have Beverly, while the whole plant is nice but blooms are not pretty in my opinion, at least it smells good
straw, Beverly definately has a stronger scent. I have not tried vase but i think Beverly as an edge lasting power on the bush, i have never thought about cutting the beautiful PAK's blooms off the plant
Artist-FKA-Novice Zone 7B GA is it growing well in the us — if so then your safe in the uk it looked like a twig — this is the sad state of it currently in two I acquired via alternate means — mine died this winter and it literally looked horrid after i cut it back cause it was full of blackspot — dead one that was grafted I will be acquiring at least 6 to ve safe now
straw, i did buy it from David Austin but i don't think that ti's dr. huey, maybe multiflora, for this one i have nutricote 18-6-8 along with weekly fish fertilizer
Thank you, that info. helps with my zone 5 roses.
Well written. I learned alot. I really like the discussion and history of the Canadian Roses. I would love to add more Canadian Roses because of how well Winnipeg Parks does for me. First to bloom in the spring, last to have blooms. Even after frost has killed all the other blooms Winnipeg Parks will still open. Also love the no-die back nature in the spring. The only work required is to dead head the blooms left on last year to encourage it to shut down.
straw, this one is not vigorous for me, Poet's Wife grows faster but get rust disease constantly, Boscobel is doing fine on the vigor side, our weather here is hot so i don't have the cold problem
straw, QoS is very stingy for me and small blooms so i like this a lot better
Your roses look perfect with so many blooms. What are your most favorites in scent? Thank you. I love button-hole roses since they are fragrant, yet don't trigger my allergies .. I got rid of Scepter'd Isle for its open-stamen & exposed pollens.
straw, my favorite scents are from Lady Emma, Gertrude, Jubilee Celebration, Golden Celebration, Boscobel, Lady of Shalllot
For the person looking at Distant Drums, here is the stock.
The same person was also looking at Koko Loco.
Tag is in lower left of this picture. I believe all flowers in this picture were Koko Loco.
Still a bit spit between Chantilly Cream and White Licorice.
Chantilly Cream only had one flower today.
White Licorice had a bunch and they were really pretty.
I still loved Silver Lining but it really is similar in color to my Love Song so I'm going to probably pass on it.
rosecanadian, I did finally get to smell White Licorice! To me it had a light scent that was sort of licorice like but there were other notes in there also. The fully open blooms didn't have a scent but the younger ones did. Unfortunately I didn't think to smell Chantilly Cream. The plants are kept alphabetically so they are several greenhouses away from each other. :-)
Not extremely fragrant compared to David Austin roses.
This thread reminds me of a blog post I read on rose forms/shapes..
https://hedgerowrose.com/rose-gardening/2016/02/10/examples-of-bloom-form-and-petal-count-in-roses/
I got to thinking how so many forms are kind of mixed like both globular and cupped..or both cupped and quarted. Some are very globular but once they open they are more cupped.
I love anything globular, cupped, or /and quartered.
Alnwick Rose is very cupped
I agree with Diane, Boscobol is often cupped here. I had one screaming coral bloom open today
some of Boscobol's past blooms
in a pink mood usually during cooler weather
Spirit of Freedom
Jude looking globular & cupped
Peach Swirl smells yummy & has deep cups for hiding little frogs.
Jubilee Celebration
Princess Alexandra of Kent has big fluffy cupcake blooms
Yes, I'm planning to sell plants on ebay starting this coming Saturday. I usually list plants every Sat. afternoon as auctions and they last a week. I will have some fixed price listings as well. I'm sorry to say that I'm adding a few states to the list of states I don't ship to. I will be adding TX, MS, AL, and AR to that list.
Here is a map of which states require treatment of the roots to prevent the spread of Japanese beetles, and those that don't. I dislike dealing with the insecticide and want to just sell to states that don't require that. I will be shipping to the green and grey states on the map below but not to Canada. ( never have shipped to Canada)
Some nurseries in Japanese beetle country don't have to treat with insecticide or bare -root plants because they grow their plants in a beetle proof greenhouse. I may try to get such a greenhouse but for now I don't have one.
I heard from my agriculture inspector recently and he said that in 2025 my county will be designated as infested with fire ants, so I would have to treat the roots with a certain insecticide for those or else just ship to states south of NC. I am leaning towards only shipping to states south of NC for next year. It would be a very limited number of states I can ship to but it's still lots of people in those states. I will give that a try for 2025. I am semi-retired anyway. I did propagate a good selection of roses to sell on ebay this year.
Last year some of my plants were bid up quite a bit more than usual but I suspect this year may be different.
As far as Spotted Lantern Fly goes my ag inspector says they are not in our county yet.
Please see the latest post on the rose vendor feedback page. Nate has responded to an email that they are not refunding any of the orders they are unable to ship. i am guessing customers will be forced to choose a different variety, a candle, or wait 2 years or so until their mother plants are larger and they work out their kinks. bait and switch. very upsetting. same thing happened to me with ”one love roses” and it took me 30 emails and 1 1/2 years to get my money back. i clearly purchased the roses for spring of 2022 with one love and spring off 2024 with garden roses llc. if they are unable to send out the product then they should refund. please leave this forum up as a warning to all about these scam businesses. very sad.
Seems to me that anyone who still thinks they are ever going to get their roses from GRLLC are sadly kidding themselves. There is plenty of evidence to suggest that nothing Nate does is legitimate or honest. Contact your CC company and get a chargeback while you still can.
In the future, pay with PayPal.
TheGableGarden, thank you for giving clear direction to everyone on this forum about how to recover funds lost to this unfortunate venture. You have repeated the directions thoroughly and often and completely absolved yourself of any responsibility in the matter.
elena, mine occasionally get the orange center when it's cool enough, here's when i saw it 10 months ago
I have a flat-sun-lamp which I put over the rooting box, it's similar to grow-light. I see ZERO difference in the rate of mold-growth & stem rot in the box with the sun-lamp, versus the box without the sun-lamp.
My rooting box downstairs in front of the large bay window & plenty of sun: mold & rot occurs more than the boxes upstairs (with warmer night temp.). Plenty of sun only helps with the top growth (longer stems), but it's the higher temp at night that prevents mold growing overnight in the dark.
The rate of mold-growth is faster with colder temp. High-water items like cucumber is best stored at room temperature at 70 F, since it grows mold faster in the cool refrigerator at 40 F. I don't store high-water items like strawberries nor tomato in cold & dark refrigerator: they turn into mush.
Rot & mold is from cold temp. in winter-rooting, plus covering each rooting with a small plastic bottle. Preventing FULL ventilation & airing at cold temp. results in mold & rot of the stem.
Rooting website advises to TAKE OFF the cover of the rooting box at night for that reason. Nighttime is when the temp. drops, thus more rot & mold.
Another setback of rooting indoor is NOT having a misting system on a timer. Plants like open air & ventilation (to prevent mold), plus regular misting so the stems & leaves don't dry out. A misting system prevents spider mites to infest the plants.
Keeping rose plants indoor when the temp. rises in the spring is to invite spider mites. I can't bring my rootings outside with unpredictable frosts at night my zone 5. We don't plant annuals & tomatoes until June 1, that's when we are safe from frost.
Below is the cookie-jar method to root roses OUTDOOR in warm summer, in the shade with no direct sunlight. I use $8 big & clear plastic box which can hold at least 12 fabric Grow bags per box: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ln0BaYaTXY
From above video: it's 2 parts perlite to 3 parts potting soil. My best success is ORGANIC potting soil with zero pelletized chemicals that burn roots. I use slightly acidic rain water at pH 6 rather than my alkaline tap water (at pH 9).
Squeeze our excess water from soil when placed in fabric grow bag. Use cuttings with upper leaves, plus 3 nodes (scrape off the end of cutting), dip into rooting hormone, then stick the lowest node into Growbag. DO NOT stick the cutting deep into Grow-bag, stick it only 1/2 deep, so there's plenty of soil below for roots to grow longer.
Cover with lid, and place under a tree or shady north side with NO DIRECT sunshine. Open once a day for 1 min. for ventilation if rainy weather.
In dry & hot weather with less moisture condensation inside: pour at BOTTOM of box a bit of water (1/8 to 1/4 cup) to prevent bottom of fabric bags from drying out.
NO misting the plants inside the box. If there's NOT enough condensation inside the box, I water FROM BELOW, rather than from above (which wets and rots the stem).
Below is a box of over 1 feet tall Evelyns which I rooted in summer 2022 and sent to Hummingbird Roses nursery.
NCM sounds great! I think I’d love a crisp citrus. We dont need to spray in my climate.
Benjamin Britton smells like Fruit Loops to me also.
In regards to sniffing and sniffers…in my hot dry climate, roses smell the best just as the sun touches them in the morning. Then the heat quickly burns off the fragrance. In the afternoon, most roses have little if any fragrance. no one wants to come early to sniff my roses and dinner guests are mostly disappointed. I had one disappointed dinner guest who came back one morning and was amazed by all the fragrances.
The fragrance also changes during the day as the more volatile oils evaporate first and the ones that are left smell different. In regards to sniffers, some people can’t smell some roses at all, roses that others say smell strongly. Tea is very commonly a scent that people vary greatly in their ability to smell. I can barely smell Mrs. BR Cant, but I‘m not sure if it is me or my dry climate evaporating the fragrance oils since no one else seemed to be able to smell it either. I wish I couldn’t smell Glamis Castle which smells like mothballs to me. Others say ”dirty diaper pail” and others say it smells great. It actually smelled pretty good when I sniffed one in humid Oregon. Wollerton Old Hall smells like mothballs to me also (horrible!) but there are a lot of reviews where people love it, more than with Glamis Castle. Rosa foetida doesnt smell particularly bad to me. Allergies decrease the sense of smell for many people, it actually sensitizes my nose until some point when I can’t breathe through my nose. If you have trouble smelling because of allergies, try using a Neti pot.
Sunny Mississippi I have been training my rose nose for some years, not only to detect different fragrance notes but to develop my sense of smell, which I would have described as ’poor’ in the past. The more you sniff the better your sense of smell gets and the more you can distinguish between different rose notes.
I found these generic perfume charts helpful to break down fragrance into recognisable notes I could apply to roses:
Some rose breeders, Like Delbard, include fragrance pyramids of base, middle and top notes, so it’s instructive to try and isolate the notes they say are present in a specific rose of theirs you have, excuse the French!
I love citrussy fragrances and my No.1 in that range is the intense, grapefruit aroma of the Delbard rose La Rose de Molinard/Parfum de Paris. Shame LRdM balls and browns in wet weather, I have nearly SP’d it so often but somehow it lives to experience another season because I am so addicted to its fragrance. Another classic citrussy Delbard is Souvenier de Marcel Proust, pure citronella, gorgeous blooms but a rather stingy rebloomer in my climate.
Others with a strong citrus notes to my nose are Austins such as Lady Emma Hamilton and Golden Celebration, plus new to me this year, The Poet's Wife, which has a zesty lemon scent:
Sultry- I grew Madam Anisette from a 2 yr own root a couple years ago when I lived in PNW. She’s one of my absolute favorites. Her scent is heavenly. She bloomed really well for me. I can say I haven’t had any other roses that had her scent profile.
I moved to NC z8a last year. I’m glad to see she does well for you here in the south! I’m having to learn what roses do well in the hot humid south. It’s completely different from what I’m used to. Thanks for posting your photo!
Amiga Mia is my wafting rose and I adore her for it! I too would like to find another like her. She is taller than most of my other roses but was a more mature plant when she went in so not sure how long it takes to get to this height. She is also my profile picture.
July 10th, 2023 pic.
Not sure if she is so good at wafting because the flowers are at my nose height. Also July 10th, 2023.
Oct. 10th, 2023 pic. You can see how many flowers she has in relation to my others.
Same day, Oct. 10th, 2023.
Penelope Lively is worth a look if you love Gabriel Oak — i believe they come to the Us the year after England has them. Gabriel oak joined my Garden last fall. he got planted in a bed with spirit of freedom — jubilee celebration - queen of sweden - and penelope lively — looking forward to how this bed will turn out 🥰
Here is a few more. the varying shade of penelope are very interesting. Penelope rooted super easily as well last fall when I cut one of her canes off her and I had two root from her at the time.
Thank you!
TheGableGarden
Penelope looks gorgeous and I am looking forward to trying it when it gets released here. Her bloom form is exquisite.
Here a couple of more picture from today when it was cloudy and easier see the colors on these two.
I LOVE the contrast of the buds color to the flowers on Roald Dahl
Well done, Straw! Evelyn is on my wanted list, but I have to put my garden in order and not overspend on buying roses hoping it will survive in our z4 frozen tundra central WI weather. And I couldn’t agree more @rosecanadian that we need more people like Straw. ❤️
Dallas Register Evelyn is sold by A Reverence for Roses in Florida, click on AUSsaucer on their website, and enter your email address to be on the wait list.
But don't assume because it shows up in your internet search it is a trustworthy site
So true! But sometimes you get lucky!