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seasiderooftop likes 3 comments on a discussion: Have any of your roses bloomed yet?
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sautesmom Sacramento

More today--Climbing Golden Opportunity, Raspberry Cupcake and Raspberry Kiss.

And Toichi Camellia!

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Soozie Q, zone 10b


Wow this Chicago Peace fully opened today & it's the largest bloom ever for me. I can cup both my hands underneath & can't see any fingers. Too bad my phone camera can't catch all the colors, pale yellow inside & under. Fragrant too. Body bag Walmart rose, 3rd year. Never cared much about it till now.

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Ryan Coastal LA Zone 10b

We got a bit of rain and a LOT of wind which damaged the Lemon Spice flush sadly. But some others came out looking pretty including Desire, Munstead and Double Delight.

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seasiderooftop started a discussion: Plant ID please?
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floraluk2

It is very reminiscent of a spindly Sonchus oleraceous. If you tear a leaf does it ooze milky sap? https://maltawildplants.com/ASTR/Sonchus_oleraceus.php

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seasiderooftop

Wow, that is a great guess, thank you so much floraluk2!!

I'll do the leaf test when it has a few more, but I have a feeling you're right about this ID!

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seasiderooftop likes 2 comments on a discussion: Anyone get your roses from Garden Roses yet?
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BenT (NorCal 9B Sunset 14)

Now we finally have the real reason why we’ve not received our Garden Roses. They’ve been busy accommodating Princess Kate!



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berrypiez6b

Who needs suspense novels when we can read Rose forum.

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seasiderooftop likes a comment on a discussion: Moral and other aspects of buying rare roses in US.
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bart bart

The only Japanese roses that are available here in Italy , as far as I know, are the six ones offered by Rose Barni. They are a serious, honest company.

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seasiderooftop likes 3 comments on a discussion: Hello from a rosaholic in Spain
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Nollie in Spain Zone9

@seasiderooftop thanks for the welcome. I really hope we get a less brutal summer this year too, over 40c is not pleasant!


I don’t actually have any Dot roses and have never bought from a Spanish nursery. That’s shocking really, but I’m not a fan of hybrid teas, which most Spanish breeders and sellers major on. I nearly bought Mme. Grégoire Staechelin (Spanish Beauty) once but realised it might be too tender for my mountain winters. I buy most of my roses from France now, and occasionally from the Netherlands, Belgium, Italy and Germany. I really rate French nurseries so could recommend some there if you are interested?


What roses do well for you in heat? I imagine they are very exposed to that on your rooftop. My south-facing border is the biggest challenge to roses, especially as it’s backed by a stone wall - I call it the rose wall of death! Munstead Wood and Warm Welcome cope well there, Darcy Bussell is ok too, but most others I’ve tried there just fry and die.

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bart bart

My soil is terrible, too, and I wish it were more acid; I'm doing what I can to lower the ph,but it isn't easy. However my problem isn't a lack of space-my garden is way too big. Actually I am now in the process of trying to sort of "consolidate" it ; I hope to concentrate most of the roses into particular areas, and fill the other ,less accesible/poorer areas with undemanding shrubs and trees.I'm putting in a LOT of trees; the summers here have become just too hot; both the plants and I need shade. My garden faces south-west, so you can use your imagination...

And speaking of shade: Nollie, is there any way that you could place a fast-growing tree near the wall of death to provide shade? Or maybe provide shade artificially for plants while they are young,until they are big enough to handle that kind of heat? Also, could you share your wishlist of heat-tolerant roses? I know, I know, I'm supposed to be trying to gt the Rose Monkey off my back, but still-well, let's say it's just for the knowledge, lol.

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Nollie in Spain Zone9

Hi Seaside, sorry I missed your post earlier.. I think you nailed it there, your ’heat stress’ and growing conditions will be different to mine and Barts will be different again. Heat is exacerbated or not by so many other factors. With all the research into heat tolerance in the world, you only really know which roses will work or not in your specific conditions by trying them, I think. I do find this forum hugely helpful in pointing me in the right direction though.


Julia Child and Marie Pavie are troopers in the heat for me too.


Bart, I chuck used teabags in the watering cans - much of the tannins are disposed of in the brewing. You can also spread spent leaves around the base but not the freshly brewed tea itself. Neither my wife or I actually drink tea so I do it specially for the roses!

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seasiderooftop likes 3 comments on a discussion: Sliding into Spring Seasonal Thread
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DDinSB (Z10b Coastal CA)

Strawberry Hill, Princesse Charlene de Monaco, Sundowner apple blossom, and quick arrangement w Angel Face, linaria, heliotrope, & heuchera.

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Diane Brakefield

Kristine, if you think freezes are over and it won't be windy, I'd put those zinnia seedlings outside for a while, making sure the sun doesn't get too intense. Grow lights lose certain UV wavelengths pretty quickly, and those wavelengths are ones plants need. Leggy growth can be a symptom of this lack of proper wavelengths of light. Getting plants in natural sun is good. Queen of the Elves is so elegant, and one of the few whitish roses I like.


Lovely photos, Deborah. Your flower arrangement sets off Angel Face so well. Is it linaria that is such a good substitute for lilacs in the arrangement? Can you grow lilacs? The apple blossom is so charming with the baby buds surrounding it. I've got to take some magnolia bud pics, especially if they go on to have damage later from freak freezes that we can have.


Berry! You can post. I've been missing you. I hope all those roses come up fast after their close call with the ground. I won't be finished pruning quite so fast, and probably will have another one of those years when some roses don't get pruned, and I get punished. I hope you get your Augusta Egg some day. Happy Easter. Diane


Trying to find an old magnolia photo and came across my late and loved Frederic Mistral.

Love Song doing the Maypole Dance prematurely.

Angel Face doing a Maypole Dance, too. I think I'm hoping for an early May.


Finally, an old photo of the magnolia. I hope this year's is as good.


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berrypiez6b

You certainly have a lively bunch Diane, Queen of the Elves would fit right in with your animated characters.


Wind was banging the metal dumpster gate so I went over to secure it . I nearly got the life startled out of me from a cat's face at the foot of the gate - someone had thrown out one of those darn life-like Tabby cat sofa pillows, leaving it up for grabs next to the dumpster. I should have tossed it into the trash but I might have gotten reported for animal cruelty if anyone saw me hurl the limp cat.

Equally surprising, behind the cat in the community flea market spot just inside the gate were four dirty gallon size clay plant pots. I quick got my walker and loaded up my treasure. Two of the pots were stuck together, maybe when I wash them up they will come apart.

Tomorrow in the tradition of my mother I'll plant seeds on Good Friday , symbolic of the Lord's burial and resurrection. Deep royal purple for the King of Kings...

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seasiderooftop likes 3 comments on a discussion: The first roses (pics)
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Melissa Northern Italy zone 8

A couple more roses, pics taken this morning:


'Mrs. B.R. Cant' growing onto the pergola and up the flowering ash. It would look tidier if I could reach high enough to deadhead old blooms. The pergola is the usual "This exists solely to keep the roses off our heads". I like them, though.



'Clementina Carbonieri' (of commerce), sprawling over a decent amount of the escarpment. This most beautiful rose burns instantly in the sun, while growing in our garden with a south-facing exposure and no shade (she is surrounded by many hefty shrubs, though); so thank goodness for the current coolish, cloudy-hazy conditions.



'Etoile de Lyon'. The rose chafers adore this rose, my greatest problem with it, but thank heaven it's still a little early for them, so this bloom was untouched. A very lovely (I know I keep saying that) rose and tough, as are Teas in general. EdL has a somewhat shrubbier and stouter habit than a twiggy Tea like 'Général Schablikine', for example. My plant is perhaps 6'x10'. Another twenty-year-er, as is CC above.

I cut a rose bouquet today for our overworked and super-diligent doc, and as I was carrying it over to her office I ran into a group of toddlers and their two carers. One little boy looked like he was interested in the roses--he stared--so I stopped and offered to let him look, and touch "with one finger". And I showed the flowers to the other children and let them touch and, on the suggestion of the carers, smell. I don't know how many of them were moved by a bouquet of Tea roses, but if even one was, it was worth it.

There's not enough beauty in the world.

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Melissa Northern Italy zone 8

More pictures recording the advance of the (very early) season. I had to wait for clouds this afternoon as this morning and yesterday were gloriously sunny and mild.



A view of the rose pergola on the paved terrace. This end is largely occupied by 'Mrs. B.R. Cant', with a bit of 'Mme. Antoine Mari' in the foreground, not quite tall enough to get to the top of the structure; to the right of the photo the pergola curves around and is roofed by 'Mme. Alfred Carrière', which I've spent the last few days getting hoisted up onto it and which is at the moment looking rather rumpled. MAM is just starting into flower.



'Comtesse du Cayla'. The softly fiery color and silky petals are hard to capture on camera. The blooms are brief, and burn in the sun, but the elegant buds and a day of flowering in mild weather are worth it. The flower also has a sweet, fleeting scent.



Another shot of 'Clementina Carbonieri' (of commerce), which I had shown in an earlier photo. This flower looks almost variegated; the blooms always remind me of tropical fruit juices, and sunrises. Fragrant. Like 'Comtesse du Cayla' its stems are deeply flushed with purple-red; like her, it burns easily. The old flowers are ugly, but, when it's right, what a beauty.



A plant shot of 'Safrano'. One of my scragglier Teas, owing to difficult growing conditions, but enjoying a nice flush right now. 'Général Schablikine' in the background to the left.

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Melissa Northern Italy zone 8

And a couple more.


'Noella Nabonnand' on top of the balcony, just coming into bloom. HMF gives this variety a height of 10', but given support it will travel considerably further in its lanky, open way. This is the correct variety. Very satisfactory rose.


And one last kind, 'Archduke Joseph', the flower a little older and opening past the rounded swirl of petals, flat across its face, that is its commonest form when in its prime. This color looks a little light; more often it's a rose pink/red with coppery tints; occasionally paler. The Archduke is just starting its flush. My rose, about twenty years old, like most of the ones I've shown on this thread, is a behemoth, climbing up into the persimmon, and beyond it onto the eastern end of the wisteria pergola: my largest Tea rose. It obviously loves its growing conditions. AJ has particularly clean and beautiful foliage.

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seasiderooftop likes 3 comments on a discussion: Which David Austin would you never plant again/
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Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR

I love Spirit of Freedom here, Rose Paris. I have a grafted one and an own root plant and they are wonderful here. We are very hot and sunny here, though. No balling and the plants have great vigor. Probably more so than Paris. I was there in 2014 and the weather was lovely.

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Darragh Worledge

To me the question should be which David Austin roses WOULD you plant again?! The answer is only one, the Lady of Shalott. Lady of Shalott is a wonderful rose, I love it. Any other DA is no longer in my garden.


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jacqueline9CA

I have only ever planted one Austin - Graham Thomas. It was unhappy until I found a place where it is happy ever since. Grows 2-3 times taller than "they" said it would - my DH had to build it a support structure after it was there for 1 year. It looks good with a purple clematis, too.

Jackie




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seasiderooftop likes 2 comments on a discussion: I've had a miracle!
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Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR




What a brave rose.

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Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR

This shot is better showing the whole bush.

Thank you all.

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seasiderooftop likes a comment on a discussion: Earth Song vs. Carefree Beauty?
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jim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6

I grew Earthsong at my old house I had to leave it there....BUT I have another young one here at my new house...I like it very much! I never tried Carefree Beauty so can not comment... Good luck with which ever one you choose to grow...








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Markay MD-Zone 7A (8A on new map)

Wow! the Love Song pics are lovely. I grow roses no-spray in an area with high disease pressure and Poseidon is a champ, but a very tall champ for a florabunda. It easily hits 6 ft here.



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Kristine LeGault 8a pnw

Patrick, I can give a big thumbs up on Blue For You. It is one of those roses that makes me smile. The color is beautiful and it is totally healthy in my no spray garden


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Diane Brakefield

Your welcome, Garden Mist. My Love Song's are about 4' tall and 4-5' wide. Their shapes are rounded, thick with canes. I love their shapes. I think Ebb Tide and Easy Spirit would look fine with Love Song. I have my Ebb Tide roses in front near Julia Child and Twilight Zone, and in back my Ebb Tide is next to Munstead Wood. ET look good with a lot of color combinations. I can't be too picky on what I put where because of lack of space for moving around. And it all works out.


Beautiful Blue for You, Kristine. I need to learn more about that rose.


Garden Mist, here's what Twilight Zone, a similar color to Ebb Tide, looks like next to Julia Child and Augusta Luise. Diane






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sautesmom Sacramento

Let's repost it with her name then!

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