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kentucky,
Is your SA one plant? If yes, amazing. She does have huge blooms even though the bush life is not great for me. They go spent fast.
My SA is smaller as a bush, but then again she's in a pot on the small side for a rose.
@Feyi,
My SA's leaves are perforated all over by some insect that seems to like it a lot, unlike other roses around it. But she does have amazing blooms, be it of short life.
So many gorgeous yellows here!
Markay, Tottering by Gently looks like a flutter (aka swarm) of butterflies! It is so pretty. Solero is one I haven't seen much. I love that color of yellow! How big does it get?
Teasing Georgia has been the healthiest yellow here. It varies from butter yellow to more gold depending on weather.
I like Teasing Georgia but it needs spraying here in NC. Or in my yard anyway.
S. Africa is healthy, so is Caramel Fairy Tale.
Allister Stella Grey is as clean as they get here
Ghislaine de Feligonde
Well Being
Very fragrant
France Info, Delbard, is very healthy and fragrant
Danae
In my area Graham Thomas is prone to black spot. Teasing Georgia is much healthier. TG and LoS are both large shrubs so I think they will look great together.
If you have the space, LoS and Golden Celebration look brilliant together. I had to move GC in the end as the area was too small for two octopus roses - those long canes fought each other. If you would consider a non Austin, LoS plays nicely with Julia Child. Because Julia is a phenomenal, near continuous bloomer, she keeps the show on the road when LoS is between flushes.
I got that mailing, as usual, but it has nothing to do with the so called exclusive rose I ordered from Grace ages ago. They keep trying to sell me more roses, but don't want to send me the rose I paid for, or even inform me of what's up with that rose. What a company. Diane
I hope folks will continue to post what they receive from GRF. I’ve been reading Rose Vendor Facebook, much of the feedback seems to be:
1. Non Exclusives are from Otto &Sons and they look good, whether own root or grafted
2. Exclusives tend to be own root, even when grafted was promised.
-Sometimes there are 2 small own roots in a pot.
-If only one own root plant, the root ball may be in the shape of ’half a pot’, like it was recently separated from its pot mate, and then soil was added to fill that pot.
I did not order from GRF this season, so just looking on the sidelines with interest.
Clearly grafted was the way to go with GRF; I’ve been getting roses from RVR, Heirloom, Northland, and ARE this month and even the bands from RVR look better than my sad little GRF order! Oh well, at least I’m done with this until it gets closer to time for my two Evelyns to ship.
Diane, Kitty, hopefully you both get your roses soon! It does seem they are finally ramping up but what a trial this has been!
Raspberry cupcake is new at my lake place this year. It is planted on unamended clay without spray as you all know. Now I can’t remember where I purchase from last year but I have 3. They seem to be staying small for a Kordes here on their first year and foliage has been very good. The blooms suffered from thrips but other than that they have been great.
pictures from September
Pretty much any type of own root rose can do that. A friend in Torrance, California has a large plant of Ralph Moore's Pink Powderpuff (own root) on her rear fence. One of its roots came to the surface of the ground near one of her sprinklers against the house foundation, several feet from the base of the plant on the fence and began growing, so she supported it and began training it on the rear wall of her house. We often see that from root stocks, particularly Dr. Huey and often because something damaged or broke the root, stimulating it to create cane growth. I've frequently observed it in beds with "companion plantings" where digging holes to plant or remove other plants in the border broke a rose root and it began producing a new plant at the break. Landscrapers in Southern California have a nasty habit of "cultivating" under roses to create dirt mulches so they don't actually have to weed or spread an organic mulch. It's a rude way to pad the labor on the bill and it is expert at generating forests of Dr. Huey from all the broken feeder roots. So, yes, it's totally possible for a rose to "wander". Either something damaged the root to stimulate it or it worked its way upward toward more water and found sufficient warmth to encourage it to grow into a new plant.
I guess she's sweet only if we leave her alone lol
The Rose Gardens contain over 4000 plants and easily the great number of varieties of anywhere that I’ve ever visited.
Outta the Blue and Jump for Joy. Jump for Joy always looks amazing here. Outta the Blue is the pre-cursor to Ebb Tide and and Twilight Zone.
Nicest plant of Barcelona I have ever seen.
A standard that is half Easy Does It, half Easy Going. I’ve seen these for sale before but never the mature plant, quite nice!
Some varieties are unique to The Huntington, this is San Marino Heritage which was named for the town where The Huntington actually resides.
These sturdy arbors house a variety of climbers. They are actually made from concrete and the wood bark details are carved by hand
There are also these super tall arches that house other climbers (where to get one, lol!) Beautiful greenery, big old trees surround the roses and everything is given meticulous care.
The best part of the visit was spending time with my friend Tom who has been curator of the Rose Gardens for a decade. He was so generous with his time and knowledge not only of the roses, of course, but also the history of the gardens, its art pieces, and all the other gardens.
Tom and BenT and Tom’s beautiful bright orange kid, Chris Evert. (While we both spent many years in Texas, those are not cowboy hats, they are just to keep out the sun, the San Gabriel Valley was quite hot already!)
Some fun stories I was told about specific roses:
Barbra Streisand had promising new varieties sent to her home to try out before choosing the mauve grandiflora above that bears her name. Two of the varieties she tried and turned down were Moonstone (!) and Gentle Giant, she wanted a highly fragrant rose.
Careless Love is a rose that was promoted in the old Henry Field catalog for many years as ’wild in color, no two are the same’. A couple of rose breeders trying to name this variety while they were drinking when they discovered a feral cat had just had kittens, hence the name ’Careless Love’!
One of the major rose companies decided to have a naming contest for the rose pictured above. Julie Newmar, who played Catwoman in the original Batman, submitted her own name , and she won!
@Diane Brakefield
Diane,
I must tell you that we were having dinner at a yummy Thai restaurant when outta the blue Tom asked, ’who is Diane from the rose forum?’. We discussed your giant Julia Child, and wonderful purple roses Ebb Tide, Twilight Zone , Wild Blue Yonder that are all his ’kids’. So he definitely does know what a wonderful job you have done with growing them (and he mentioned you over Thai food, lol!).
Feiy
Thank you, I love to know the stories behind individual varieties, too.
Sylvia
Lucky you to stroll the Huntington for a whole week. I was thinking I need at least a week full time to see it all. They have a plant sale at end of April, I heard some special roses are available then.
This is interesting, I would guess somehow they lost the license to use her name. Many times Miranda Lambert was the only HT that Home Depot in Texas carried. It was about the time she called herself a ’homewrecker’. I thought it was very ironic that the home improvement giant could only provide us with ’Homewrecker’ and ’Knock Out’!
The stopped calling the rose Diana, Princess of Wales after she lost the official title. The rumor was that Prince Charles requested the change. If Prince Charles called me, I’d be sure it was a prankster and hang up!
I have many--both Blue Girl and Le Petit Prince hang on longer than most in heat, as does my Love Song in partial shade.
Of course, nothing blooms in summer.
Carla in Sac
Two that last especially long for me are
Lila Vidri
English Perfume (7 days in a vase, longer on plant)
I have a whole lavender/purple bed and dont notice blooms blowing fast and it ismiserably hot here.
Quicksilver ladts for days, Love Song and Charles DeGaulle kadtca long time too and Blue For You blooms so much that you dont noyice if they are dhort liged, which I dont think they do
Charles DeGaulle
QuicksiQuicksilver
Sophia, I have never seen roses more beautiful in the spring and fall than in NorCal’s central valleys , which include Sacramento and Stockton. The public rose gardens there are not the biggest, but the plants are simply incredible.
Sacramento’s Capitol Park rose garden (late April):
Stockton’s World Peace Rose Garden (October)
There are a few of us here who are also on the NGA (garden.org) rose forum. But as Ben said, there is no comparison in terms of the activity. They have maybe 5% of the activity of this Houzz forum. Both of the moderators there, Zuzu and Calif Sue, live in the general vicinity of Sebastopol, so you might want to contact both of them :-D
Most roses do VERY well in NW Oregon, except indica types, some Austins (mudball roses), and roses that get downy fairly badly. We get enough heat during the summer. Summer is not the issue. It's spring that can cause issues. Where most people live, its like 300 ft above sea level, and always raining, so there is not a lot of UV in the spring time for some lineages. For example, Just Joey/St. Patrick types just like to chill there till June hits. We get some of the largest blooms in the world though. Neptune is a dinner plate. Elina is beyond massive. Most rose blooms have more saturation and larger blooms here.
Madame Annisette is one of my top roses for fragrance, beauty plus is long lasting as a cut flower. another top favorite is Sugar Moon.
i started a new rose garden at my new retirement community in Seal Beach CA Zone 10. left 80 rosebushes behind at my old house. they were a big selling point for the new owners.
Madame Annisette with striped Parade Day in background which also has a strong fragrance and is long lasting as a cut flower
Madame Annisette
Parade Day
Thanks everyone for watching the videos and the sweet words. I’m very lucky to have friends that enjoy roses the same way I do!
Rosylady
Your words resonated with me. Even though we live in a more favorable climate , we still stay just as busy taking care of our plants to make them look nice.
Erasmus
I am indeed happy to move away from not only blackspot and RRD, but mosquitos, too!
Karen,
I love talking about roses, and these videos are a great outlet. I had considered just setting the roses to a music background, but I like to talk too much.
Melissa
I’ve been honing up on my video editing skills, I am using an app called InShOt which seems much more intuitive than my old app. I do enjoy learning something new, even if it is frustrating at times.
mmmm,
I like seeing the full plant in people’s garden myself! I’m glad you do that in your pics as well.
Kitty
Black Baccara seems super popular here, I wonder if it has better burn resistance than other black reds
Berrypie
It is indeed Elon’s garden too, I left enough grass so we can play fetch in both directions!
Elon has a great smile , he's a hunk ! ( compact one )
Elon thanks everyone for the compliments! He wishes he could jump in his car and visit each of you in person and frolic in your garden. Alas, he is only 3, too young for a driver’s license, and must be relegated to the back in his doggy booster.
The garden is still looking nice and more roses are coming into bloom, so I am making videos for Part 3.
English Perfume
Capri
Chippendale
Perfume Factory
Gertrude
Wow! Your TG has unbelievable numbers of blooms! I just planted mine last fall and hope it will look like yours in a few years. Do you think it's easier to train as a climber or is it best to keep shubby?
You grow such stunning specimens, Erasmus. Both versions are lovely but I also prefer the creamier version, so delicate!
Thank you! Some say it's pretty disease resistant but mine tends to get some blackspot. No mildew. I'm pretty sure my plant is grafted.
They get some mildew since I’m near the ocean and get constant ocean breeze but the mildew doesn’t seem to affect the plant that much. I’m a lazy gardener so I don’t spray or anything except keep up with the watering and fertilizing from time to time =P
Here’s what I found when I did a search. Looks like it St. Cecilia rose, renamed by the florist industry as Peony Pink Rose.
One thing to consider if you're looking for an old fashioned rose smell is to grow an old fashioned rose. Most of the Hybrid Perpetuals and related Old Garden Roses have what I consider the classic rose scents. I can smell very few rose scents (too many allergies) but roses like Madame Isaac Periere or Maggie or Sydonie knock my socks off with strong rose scents. A lot of Gallica and Damask and Alba roses are the flowers from which rose-scented perfumes have been created for centuries. Roses like The Apothecary Rose only bloom for a month or so in the season but the fragrance is undeniable.
All the suggestions above are more modern roses with great scents and Ben has a ton of fabulous roses with scents. If the form of the rose that you want is the classic spiraled bloom, that is more common in the modern roses. You can check the David Austin catalog too for roses that have particular kinds of scents. Some of them are "myrrh" which is more licorice scent than old rose, but they classify their roses for the types of scents involved. For me the strongest old rose scent from an Austin is Sharifa Asma.
Just a thought! There are a lot of options.
Cynthia
Bolero also came to mind for me as a modern rose with a fragrance that's close to older classic rose fragrance, but it's got other notes, too that make it's fragrance a little different (but still good).
Otherwise, I agree with Nippstress. Look into growing a Hybrid Perpetual or Portland Damask old rose. Sydonie, Jacques Cartier, Rose de Rescht, Reine des Violettes all have that classic old rose fragrance, are beautiful old roses and repeat boom. Blanc Double de Coubert is an old Rugosa hybrid that also has a strong delicious old rose fragrance.
Evelyn has obviously greened up, compared to a few days ago. I added a dose of garden tone after posting, but I doubt it has worked so fast yet. I bought a bag of holly tone and haven’t got time to put it down yet
And Evelyn has her first bloom this year
I wish she will grow more vigorously.
I also have this rose and it stays small. It is is one of my better locations sun wise although the soil could be improved more. I’m trying to be more regular with fertilizing (although I’m pretty sporadic with my other roses and they seem to do just fine) and that seems to have helped some but I don’t think it will ever be considered a robust, healthy rose
I'm going to join the chorus of folks saying that this plant looks healthy, and like a nice own-root plant. I've never worried about the size of a rose when I acquire it -- only the size it will eventually achieve in my garden. When a rose is happy, it can grow quite quickly. :)
I would never complain about a plant that healthy looking. I don't think Heirloom can be responsible for people's lack of experience. Educating gardeners takes years of experience and time the sellers don't have. This is why we are on here to find out what is what.
Aw, thanks folks. MA is a showstopper, for sure. I've heard though, that she likes a lot of water. We get quite a bit of rain November -May, so maybe that's why she's happy in my garden.
I have some other impressive bloomers, too, Bolero is another great white that's fragrant, healthy and full of blooms all summer. Bolero is also a small bush and easily stays compact!
Pink Reminiscence’s time has come! after blooming a few flowers here and there for a few weeks now it is in full bloom.
The soft pink does not fade, with its old rose form. Not much fragrance, except for some clean spice. Last year I sometimes smell old rose but it has not come this year
Good companions with Fun in the Sun
Here come the blooms again. Rise up Lilac Days has filled the yard with fragrance
It used to be at the fromt porch. It has grown so fast in 1 year we had to build a 10 feet hight pergola to fit it.
Happy gardening!
La Fountaine aux Perles (light pink) AFTER being pegged this winter. Still topping at six feet. we shall see if she gets much taller this year.
Great to hear your other roses broke dormancy ... :-) Good luck with whatever you decide to replace L.C. with...Hope it grows well for you Omar (Z6, Northwest Ohio) .
I think my best cutting rose is Polka, which is really unfortunate because it is a very stingy bloomer for me and an unattractive bush shape besides. It suffers from complete winter dieback every year and seems to struggle with that. It technically is root hardy at least but I think this rose is really meant for a warner zone in order to thrive. Really wish it bloomed more. I'd say I get a good 5 days out of them in the vase. They're so frilly and pretty.
Apricot, bottom left
Here's a photo from its early years, so you can get a sense of the height of the porch. It was probably only in the ground a year at this point:
Three years later, it had reached the top of the porch:
And this is a photo from two years later, the year we moved:
I never needed to restrict its growth. It seemed happy blooming about between the euphorbia and the top of the porch railing. So I basically only removed old canes that were no longer performing. As for training, I would tie the canes to the porch railing occasionally or to bamboo canes. Aside from that, I gave it some composted steer manure every other year or so, drip irrigation, maybe a splash of liquid fertilizer (e.g., fish) in the spring, but that was about it.
Here are some beauty shots just for fun:
This photo from today shows better what I'm talking about with the shading on Irene Bonnet. Maybe gray is not the best way to describe it. At the bottom of the photo, the bloom in the shade has the dusky coloring that can sometimes pop up.
But that said Irene really kicked into gear over the past week and is looking glorious right now.
I used to live in Plano (near Dallas) some colorful plants that were good in a Texas summer would include
Hardy Hibiscus
Canna
Crape Myrtles do very well too, there are some dwarf varieites that max out at 3-6 ft.
Collin County where I lived had declared itself ’The RRD Epicenter of the World’, largely due to unattended public and commercial plantings of Knock Outs. I did maintain a big rose garden but it took judicious monitoring for RRD and spraying for fungal disease. Probably ore work than most would want to invest
" I sent an email to Kate's Roses in a futile attempt to see if they would deliver to Canada. I knew they wouldn't...but...hope springs eternal. :) :) "
There is a Canadian source for many of these in Ontario, according to the internet. Like HB-101 or some such place.
As for the US side, I have mixed feelings. There are 3 to 5 of these online stores that overlap the product heavily. Most of the roses are Interplant, DeRuiter, Japanese, Chinese, Tantau, Meilland, and Delbard. SOME of those roses are Austin renames. There is 'Munstead Wood' hidden in one of the sellers, which I found hilarious.
I bought 'Brideside' (dumb name but whatever) and ' Huddersfield Choral Society'. The breeder for 'Brideside' does the VIP series, and it seems to be above grade in their work, so I am risking it to be okay in the garden based on their other work. 'HCS' has proven garden merit. I almost bought 'Black Perfumella' but decided I hated 'Black Baccara' so much that it wasn't worth growing a runt-size HT just for blackish fragrant blooms.
I am guessing these growers either know each other or are family in different states (FL, TN, CA, TX). Most of these roses could have been sourced through the florist trade, but some of these varieties would have had to initially been sourced through Europe. Probably France. Who knows.
Their return policies are all pretty awful. I have a grow tent so I am not worried, but the policies do suck. I am not terribly worried about how the roses are sourced as long as they are true to variety. However, I AM worried that many of the cultivars are just not meant for gardens, and that it could sour future would-be rosarians on rose culture.
Just going to chime in briefly, in case anyone is considering Russian Sage that has not grown or seen it around before, it suckers like crazy and is quite bossy, at least here in my area. I wouldn't consider it a good companion plant unless you have very spacious beds.
I have had to remove quite a few roses here. Markay MD-Zone 7A (8A on new map) ..I hope it gets better... If not best wishes your replacement does well! I will scare Beverly into performing better for you... lol
Scentuous today in my garden, both plant and bloom are very beautiful.
Thank you Moses. Since you and the Rose geek seemed to really like her I also ordered 4 from home depot and I am so glad I did. I don’t mind the flat blooms even tho I do prefer chalice shaped ones like Earth Angel. Thank you for recommending Bliss I think she will be a favorite. Do you grow earth angel? Her blooms are gorgeous and the plant is healthy. I would recommend her grafted from palatine.
Robusta had some dead cane and alot of live cane. Still looks pretty gangly compared to other years. Not exactly an attractive bush form.
This is a row of 4 climbers. Each year they are all dead to the ground. I had planned these to be a background for the bed and a wall of color.
From left to right, Sally Holmes, Lady in Red, Above All and Fred Loads.
I've decided to take Above All (planted 6/20) out and put Victorian Memory in that spot. Should have enough room for it to be 6x6 with no interference of other roses. Should Victorian Memory over whelm Lady in Red (planted 4/19) I will not mourn it's passing because it never climbs or gets beyond a short squat bush.
Fred Loads I'm going to keep because it grows really tall each year and is spectacular. Maybe some day it will keep some cane. It is my youngest rose and was planted in 7/2020.
Sally Holmes (planted 6/17) always has the clock ticking on her because she is an on-going disappointment. Just don't have anything better for that spot yet. In the mean time I enjoy her beautiful blooms on a short squat bush.
Dick Koster on the left and Denver's Dream on the right didn't do too bad. Not much to take off.
Neil Diamond, left and Parade Day just to the right of it (tagless - it got run over and broke by the trash can) didn't do too bad.
This looks like a picture of Winnipeg Parks but it was supposed to be of Candy Land (to the right of it) and Love Song (in the foreground). Candy Land, another climber was dead to the ground and Love Song had significant die back also.
Altissimo came with the house and is in a bad spot. It is only one cane every year so we chopped it to the ground to see if we could get it to branch.
That is a great looking Fairy. I think it is bigger than mine, although I may have under estimated the size of it right now so when it was larger it may have been 3 ft wide.
July 16, 2023. I think it is more white in the first flush and gets pinker with repeats.
Here it is in Oct. 2023 with much pinker blooms.
The flowers seem to last a long time on the bush. And the Japanese Beetles don't bother them. Lots to like about The Fairy.
I am considering more miniatures/polyanthas due to the ones I have not getting eaten by the Japanese Beetles
Mazerolm...will you be planting your roses in the ground or will you grow them in pots? Tbh, Austins have never really done well for me. lol I love Carruth/Bedard roses the best. But I can help you to overwinter them. :) :)
@Feiy (PNWZ8b/9a), the color of Rhapsody in Blue is so pretty! I am surprised that you would have late bloom in your zone. This is an abnormal year, or Seattle is always like this? The Dr Robert Korns you gave me last year has become my favorite. I love its dainty flowers and musk fragrance. It lightens up the shady corner