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Himmelsauge bud.
Is the fuzziness fragrant when you rub it? That looks like the glands that many old roses, Gallicas in particular, have; I think they are what mutate and become the moss of Moss roses. I love rubbing my fingers on the buds of my old roses and smelling the scents on my fingers. Fragrance in roses isn't only from the open flowers.
Wow that color is gorgeous!
I'm so glad to hear that things are improving, however, the massive drama and the number of people who say they still haven't received plants they paid for make this vendor a solid "no" for me.
I would say the trade off in CA climates is between coastal and inland,. Coastal climates have milder summers that are great for long lasting rose blooms. Inland climates are drier and there’s less disease pressure (and roses grow faster) , but blooms burn in summer. You need to find a place with just the right amount coastal influence: Enough heat to encourage growth and drive away fungus, but not so much to burn those blooms. Sebastopol seems like quite a good choice. There is someone named Zuzu on Garden.org roses forum that grows hundreds of roses there, might PM her for details. Also be mindful of how you will source your water, most of NorCal is quite dry.
Lucky you Jemma, to have the freedom and ability to live in CA and choose the best climate for rose growing! I tried to find the biggest lot when I moved to CA, just under 1/3 acre, I could certainly use more, but I feel very lucky with what I have.
You're correct. Whenever I've visited the Portland Rose Garden, I've never come across blooming David Austin roses, despite multiple visits.
ElfRosa,
I am very surprised Austins don’t do well in Portland I would think the mild coastal weather would be similar to England. There is an Austin test garden near Dallas, too, where the roses grow huge and weedy with few blooms. I bet our Austin Test Garden looked worse than yours, lol!
Having some big big rambler sprays would be dy-no-mite!!! And depending on how the schedule is written, you could likely enter them in more than one class!
Rude comments by judges is really unfortunate. REALLY unfortunate! You can't do much about it, of course, but it's sad that their mother didn't teach 'em better manners.
Years ago I went to an orchid show in Houston. The orchid I remember the most had very small blooms, but the stalk with blooms was four feet long and all the blooms were perfect.
I love the idea of showing a rambler, but here are what I think you need to do before the show.
The biggie is to learn how long a branch can be and still look fresh in the water. Too often, a long stem won't have the umpf to pump water out to the very end of the stem. Start by cutting one, note the water temperaure , and see what the end looks like in 24 hours.
The second thing is : how long will it take up to remove blooms that are either about to drop petals or whose petals are discolored (thrips, sunburn, etc.)
Once upon a time I had what I thought the night before a show was a magnificent spray of R. multiflora. The next morning, all of the above problems had happened. Similarly with the rose Gardinia. I never could get the bus to open AND look fresh. On the bush, perfect strong light yellow petals. Once cut, the petals lost their substance ..
You can tease a slightly opened bud to open. Once open there's no going back.
You might find this show schedule interesting: ir was for the Tenarky District (TN, KY and Arkansas) a couple of years ago.
I love Yellow Lady Banks - here is a pic of our old one on our house before the Fire Dept made us take it down (I thought calling it and the not-blooming Cl Cecile Brunner next to it "cultivated bio mass" was rude!).
I know most folks on here have seen it too many times, but in case anyone does not know how big it can get - this is an example. I think it might be "indeterminate" - it grew right up to the roof, and then through the sofit one year, and came out and bloomed actually on top of the roof shingles! Of course, we all know about the white one in Arizona...
Jackie
Beth Hana, yes, to repeat, please read Seaside's post on Etsy sellers. I am totally disheartened by all the illegal trade in Japanese roses--not to mention the Roses LLC debacle. Diane
Customer expectations are so wild I don’t hold any company responsible for customer expectations. I’ve heard so many customers have so many wild expectations in every industry I’ve worked in. In short customers are often wrong.
Customers are responsible for their own expectations especially when making a properly informed decision. Nothing here suggests the shopper was ill informed or persuaded using shady marketing tactics, which I will say I’ve seen some other rose sellers use.
If the OP believes that plant is only a year old, they're mistaken. An own root rose grown from a cutting takes two years to achieve that size. Because it is an own root plant, there is no "crown" or "shank", and so theres no need to worry about the position of the branch above the soil line. New shoots will come from the soil level, guaranteed. There's a whole lot of fussing over nothing going on here. Yeah, OP may be disappointed with what they got, but it will be an excellent bush in a year's time, mark my words.
I would never complain about a plant that healthy looking. I don't think Heirloom can be responsible for people's lack of experience. Educating gardeners takes years of experience and time the sellers don't have. This is why we are on here to find out what is what.
I put together this tour of my front yard today! I had intended it the video to be about 5 minutes, but it took 20! I am slow and verbose.
Galadriel,
I think Golden Opportunity is awesome, with quality repeat like no other, I’m glad you are going to get one.
Dianela,
Thanks for the compliement,
, but your own garden is incredible, especially those magnificent climbers on pillars and those robust groupings of Austins. I feel like we are looking a an arboretum with those beautiful statues too.
Feiy,
I love your beautiful garden as well, I think we have the same garden style, squeeze in a riot of color wherever we can!
Magpie,
Thanks for the eloquent and kind words, we should do the most and be happy with what we’re given
Sultry,
LOL, those dogs have a mind of their own and they are so determined to get their own crazy agenda done!
Soozie,
Little dogs make the best garden buddies.
Moses,
Thank you, always appreciate your wisdom and humor.
Pink rose,
Thanks much, I’m happy for others to see my garden, it is a blessing to be able to do so.
Carol,
Thank you , I think you’d like Neptune, it was my Texas neighbors favorite, she just called it that wonderufl purple rose that smells like lemons.
I wanted to add, that's an early bloom and slightly deformed, and doesn't show the flowers at their best, which is what they usually are.
RBEHS, you may be right about foliage and mossing, but the habit is very different from 'Common Moss', which I grow. CM has a lanky, open habit and gets tall; my mystery moss is low-growing and suckering, with upright growth. In habit it resembles a Gallica, but its general bristliness and mossiness, and its foliage, are entirely un-Gallica-like, at least to my eyes.
Jackie, you're right: it is a happy rose.
Beautiful old Moss, Melissa! Could it possibly be ’Pelisson’? As I recall that one suckers quite a bit, even in clay, and it has something of a Gallica habit. Fragrant and quite mossy like your rose, and I think the petal count is at least close to your rose’s petal count and the form is close. I’ve read that ‘Pelisson’ is called a ”red“ Moss, but in my opinion, it is distictly medium pink. Suckering Moss roses: My ‘Nuits de Young’ is the reigning monarch of suckering Mosses. Fortunately, it is a lovely, purple thing and I have a sharp spade! My Gallicas aren’t blooming yet, but it looks like you’ve already begun Old Garden Rose Season 2024! Carol
I'm trying not to buy anything this year, but sale season is truly difficult to endure!
They email me every day with specials, and that's the latest one. I've bought from them before and from Park Seed, so maybe that's why I get the constant emails. Diane
The sale code is SAVE25. Diane
@ElfRosaPNW8b I'm glad you are finding it interesting! The first thing I would consider is what performs well for you. How healthy it is, how much you enjoy it, then I'd look it up on Help Me Find-Roses to see if it has created any offspring. You'll probably need a Premium Membership to research the parentage but that's only $24 a year and well worth it, in my opinion. Not having any listed offspring doesn't mean it can't be used, but if it's something like Rise'n Shine or Avandel, and you can see many dozens of results from it, then at least you have an idea of what might be possible from it. Mr. Moore. obtained is Hybrid Perpetual results from putting Paul Neyron pollen on Anytime, and one he called Lemon D. He also created new "Teas" using Sheri Anne, Joycie, and other minis from Papa Gontier. What minis do you have which perform well for you there? Perhaps we can help you figure out which might be interesting to start with? And, what OGRs are you considering using? Expect rampant growth and a lot of disease in many of the first generation offspring. That's common when combining such divergent lines of genes, but occasionally something really spectacular arises from the masses and that makes it all worthwhile!
ElfRosaPNW8b great! I'm glad you have the membership! Were you aware that using the Advanced Search, you can look to see what the roses you're interested in have been used for in breeding? Of course you can simply physically click on every offspring listed and look whether it was used as seed or pollen parent, but a relatively recent addition to the Advanced Search allows you to search for all of the results from a specific rose used as either parent. Andrea, so far, has been used several times as pollen parent but apparently not for seed. That doesn't mean it won't, just no one has used it for seed yet. A glitch in the search which hasn't yet been solved is when searching for seed parent, sports also show up. Something to be worked on as time permits.
Beauty Secret - pollen only.
Cinderella - twice for seed and a few more as pollen.
Jean Kenneally - quite a few times for seed; and many as pollen.
Judy Fischer - once for seed; once for pollen.
Magic Carrousel - many times for seed; many more times for pollen.
Strawberry Swirl - no reported results.
Twister - no reported results.
Windy City - only one sport reported.
The Fairy is behind many of the Kordes releases and is fertile in both directions if you want to explore poly types. I'd imagine it may be pretty similar with the other landscape types you mention.
Definitely harvest pollen from the minis and try it on American Pillar and the Teas and other OGRs which show results from being used as seed parents. Before you expend the time and energy on creating your own seeds, you probably should harvest self set seed from your garden and practice raising the seedlings. Why waste the time and effort to make seeds you may not be able to successfully germinate and raise yet? Honing your skills on the free seeds waiting for you in your garden saves time and energy.
Digging pollen out of extremely double blooms requires patience and can be done. It may take many blooms of something incredibly double to produce enough pollen to do much with. I dry the harvested anthers and stamen on sheets of plain paper in the living room and dining room. We seldom use the rooms so nothing accidentally bumps them off the tables and no pets are allowed so they aren't an issue in there. The house remains in the high sixties most of the time because of the climate and we don't need air conditioning (again due to the climate) so there aren't breezes blowing through to blow them off the papers. When I'm ready to use them, I carefully dump the material into a clean glass baby food jar to take out to the seed parent flower. Gently shaking the baby food jar helps release the pollen from the anthers and it sticks to the sides of the jar. I apply it to the stigma of the seed parent bloom with my finger tip, wiping off any extra between crosses of different pollen parents.
You may want to invest in this tool to help dig out pollen and remove stamen. This is the most cost effective source for the tool I've found. As it's also used as a sewing tool, you can find it at sewing sources, often for over $20 a piece. They are all made of stainless steel and all in Pakistan. I'm certain only one or two manufacturers are responsible for the world's supply as, other than brand names laser etched or painted on the tools, they are all identical. Rio Grande jewelry supply has the best price around at $4.99 each with a few cents off for quantity purchases. https://www.riogrande.com/product/squeeze-action-4.75-straight-blade-micro-scissors/119341GP/?code=119341
If you think you want to start doing this with any regularity, buy five pair and put the other four where you'll remember where you put them so when you mis place them or break them, you're covered. I mention this here because there is older information on my blog about purchasing them. Hopefully, most of what you might need to know can be found here on my blog post about pollinating roses. http://pushingtheroseenvelope.blogspot.com/2012/08/pollinating-roses.html
I know I've left out much and likely not explained all I should have, as well as I should, so when questions arise, please ask!
Today's Lamarque babies.
HCR sells own root roses exclusively. It's not Dr Huey.
It might be Skyrocket.
We are getting cold drenching rains for the next several days, so I put umbrellas up over the roses that are about to bloom, and constructed a little temporary greenhouse over some smaller roses.
Artist-FKA-Novice Zone 7B GA
The peachy colored one is Sunbelt Savannah…gorgeous rose!