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This may seem too old-fashioned, but why not a pelargonium? The Geraniaceae Nursery, which I believe is located in Marin, has a lot of harder to find pelargoniums that are more interesting than the local hardware store versions.
I would choose I small groundcover rose or one not so small like a drift. I would prune it every few months to keep it at the required size and see how it does.
I would choose I small groundcover rose or one not so small like a drift. I would prune it every few months to keep it at the required size and see how it does.
I dont like Choosing because I really change my mind every day. This year I am going to pick Bliss. I normally prefer very globular blooms but I was so impressed with my first blooms from Bliss that I am choosing her. Thank you Moses for this recommendation.
Ugh, everything is sodden here, the coldest, wettest spring ever. Guy Savoy doesn’t mind the rain:
Rouge Royale ,more fushia than red because of 90's weather these days .
I do not know where you live (it will affect the answer). Unless you are in California or somewhere like that I would not plant a Kordes in anything less than 6 hours of sun. They do great here in the south but want the sun to bloom.
Vaporvac, sorry, I didn’t word that correctly! The sun hits that area somewhere between those times and stays there the rest of the day!
Thanks for sharing your experience with Quicksilver! Yes, it seems like it must like the sun if it can’t handle the shade in your area. I’m sure our climates are vastly different! 😁 Thanks for the tip about Peter Beales, too. I’ll see what I can find! 😊
Another helpful site is Lens Roses on-line catalogue. It's in Dutch, French or English. The part where they mention placing (i.e., shade-tolerant or not) and spacing is mostly in Dutch, I believe, but it's easy to get the hang of it. That is,"Standplaats" is clearly placing, since it's followed by"sun or part-shade". I send a link to the page on "Bouquet Parfait"https://lens-roses.com/en_US/shop/bouquet-parfait-r-13580?order=lr_product_type_sequence+asc%2Cvirtual_stock_for_website+desc to show what I mean.
My plants look great but the blooms look a bit ratty. To be fair a lot of my roses are looking a bit burnt or rain damanged.
Actually I didnt see it fry last summer , we have very high humidity . But the blooms get very small during the heat .
Here it is today. Our temps are in the 90's these days .
In cooler weather , the color is deeper and the blooms a little bigger .Good fragrance .
Diane .. you made me laugh outloud . i believe theyd make a great business partnership 😂
@BoweredCottage
I also think some good soil and iron may help. I also would like to encourage you to grow it and dont worry too much about mosaic virus. Many people here have plants that are MANY years old and still perform great while infected with MRV. Several of my roses have it and I do not do anything different with them.
If the plant dies David Austin should replace it for you.
This looks like iron deficiency to me as well. I’ve had this with a few of my potted roses over the years, two were due to poor draining pots/soil, one was for reasons that remain obscure. All were already being fertilized with liquid fish fertilizer. In every case they got better with refreshed potting soil in a well draining pot and a few doses of liquid iron.
Thank you Dianela and Heather. I’ll repot her in some fluffy soil and hope for the best. I appreciate your help!
Gorgeous! I just added this beauty to my garden.
@Formerly RBEHS Z10A/S17 I’m so glad you grow Semi Plena, too. Mine hasn’t suckered much…yet. But I will keep and eye on it and a spade handy. I love Common Moss! There’s one in my neighborhood, and I am mustering the courage to ask for a start.
@Heather RR I see that you are also PNW. It’s wonderful seeing how these old roses grow in your garden. I think they tend to grow very well here as long as we sidestep the ones prone to blackspot. Henri Martin is a classic! I wish I could tuck him in. I have a young Wm Lobb in a pot because I ran out of room but want to grow him. Someday he may jailbreak, though. I also grow Salet (from Vintage Gardens before it closed). My plant may not bloom this year as I had to dig it up and pot it up during some repairs. WHAT IS SUGAR JANGLE?? I though I knew all the Barden roses by name. Please post the bloom when it opens. I’m dying to see it!
Erasmus, thank you for posting more pics of your GORGEOUS roses!! It’s interesting to know that Rose des Peintres is both healthy and so beautiful. I’ve been very curious about it after I saw it on the Palatine site. How is the scent?
My husband is a lawyer but says building things is his stress relief…which works out well for me! They’re all new so nothing growing on them yet except the garden has peas and the big pergola has wisteria entering its third season.
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Here's my Lavender Lassie this year.
My husband made this arbor. He also put some wire fencing on one side where some clematis are growing.
The clems:
Madame Julia Correvon last year
Henryi
Here is my first bloom on Bring me Sunshine - currently getting all day sun afternoon shade by an Olive Tree.
Oh never mind. I was confused myself. I remember seeing a few nice red climbing roses but they are in the other topic. Sorry about that
Your Florentina looks terrific, Dianela, very healthy and beautiful blooms. There is a another lady in Alabama who grows Red Eden no spray and has had very good result with it, and says repeat is excellent. Her video is below:
I always thought Florentina and Red Eden have a similar look. I believe Florentina is the larger bloom, but Red Eden has a decent scent. I’ve been very happy with my Red Eden, but it’s young and hasn’t climbed yet.
@Lynn Nevins
I’ll give you my 2cents based on your pictures and the fact that when I started gardening in 2016 I had no idea how to keep alive anything larger than a cat. I am going off what I remember your post asked and it isn’t in any particular order but I hope it helps.
Someone with experience may be ideal for the job, but if the owner is comfortable with you just giving it a try why not. It isnt a botanical garden it seems very small and those are tough plants.
#1 I appreciate your efforts to be organic but you are in the north east with tons of humidity and disease pressure so you need to real help here to keep everything looking great.
#2 the azaleas and rodis like you already assumed just need some shaping. The one in your picture looks to be a once bloomer so shape right after blooming and no more.
#3 pull all weeds from the roots even if you have to follow the plants to the end of the world or it won’t be good enough. No mulch can stop them. Even better get some round up and a sponge and dab them (this will reduce any droplets from going on the surrounding plants). Use good skin protection and remove all clothes and shower after. (Read on roundup use and association with lymphoma).
#4 the rose in your picture not only looks like it hasn’t been taken care of in a while, it also looks like a hybrid tea of some sort. Unless the owner is highly attched to it I would remove it and plant a much more disease resistant variety rose. Roses need constant spraying in your area to keep their leaves unless you pick the correct variety. Pick a rose with strong blackspot resistance probably a Kordes would do great there. Look into “Bliss from Kordes” or ask me for other recommendations if you are looking for black spot resistant varieties you may want to research.
#5 fertilizer isn’t that big of deal. Azaleas do prefer acidic conditions and some fertilizer for acid loving plants would be nice, but NOT required unless the soil there is alkaline. You don’t seem to want to have a bunch of them so pick a nice slow release variety and go with it.
I like Oscomote smart release and I use it ON EVERYTHING. I have hundreds of plants which includes roses, azaleasa, hydrangeas macro, paniculatas, oak leafs, honeysuckles and lots of perennials. Yes you can later get better and start adding cow manure to the soil and a millions other things that could improve the garden but it doesn’t have to be done the first year.
#6 ok the mulch. Like you already mentioned in your post do not pile the mulch around the base of the plant. I would leave 2 to 3 inches around the base bare. This also helps when it is time for the fertilizer.
Lynn there are definitely many details to learn when growing plants in the ground so a good time researching will be helpful. I tried to mark on your picture the leaves of at least one vine that certainly looks like a clematis as stated before on the post. This is definitely not a weed. So take some time to identify every plant and then decide what to do with it. A clematis would be a beautiful addition and they are expensive and take time to establish so removing one thinking it is a weed would be a shame.
Ok someone brought up the sun exposure also. I agree that is critical. I have noticed people up north are definitely able to grow some of my shade plants in the sun but still it probably helps to know. Roses require a good minimum of 6 hours of direct sun so count the hours that rose bush is getting first. If it isn’t getting at least 6 or more there is no rose that will be happy there. I will replace it with more Rodis, maybe a hydrangea or anything that will prefer less sunlight. Azaleas and hydrangeas play well together for the most part. Of course read on those also since the Paniculatas in general prefer more sun than the “blue” hydrangeas.
I would divide the different areas of the garden that you are working on and decide what is their sun expose. Then see if the plants already there are compatible. Then clean up everything unwanted after proper identification. Select varieties that will be happy there based on sun exposure, hardiness and plant at the proper depth.
Jim Putnam has a great YouTube channel where he has videos on how to plant a specific variety.
Like how to plant encore azaleas (these like more sun). He has many many videos. He is in North Carolina in a warmer zone than you are but their soil is acidic which I think may be your case but that’s also something you must figure out.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hEQ8PxjMOVY
There are many varieties of secateurs you can use while gardening. I would advise having some of the regular ones that usually can handle up to 1inch. Then you need some of the larger one for thicker branches. If you are going to offer a gardening service you definitely need to invest in some tools. Use the ones that feel comfortable to your hand size. They should make clean sharp cuts and not chew on the branches. They should be cleaned regularly specially when working with roses.
Sorry for the crazy long posts but I hope you are successful.
" But I could definitely see such education being helpful for a job in a park/botanical garden. "
This type of formal or structured training is helpful for anyone attempting to run any sort of gardening business. In fact, most professional gardeners - those who hire out their services for money - have such an education under their belts before they ply their trade.
And we wonder why the industry often gets such a bad rap......it is folks who don't know what they are doing masquerading as someone who has the necessary training and experience.
Beautiful! Dont see these often.
All my favourites in one post. Top work, Mads
These are lovely.
I would use the full dose in the mature plant and half the dose on the smaller one. It is tough when there aren’t very specific instructions to m follow but by lowering the dose you will be safe and the smaller plant can still get a good boost.
I do pretty much what dianela does. I dont measure anything though lol. I just kinda give the smaller ones less of the same concoction the bigger ones get (whatever fertilzer/brew they are getting that day). As long as they are well watered first, they will probably be fine, even if they get a little too much. I dont use pesticides except organic so there's that.
I've asked, and he answered. But I'm sorry, it's just what we all feared, and that's all I'm permitted to say.
EDIT: My personal opinion is that Paul is justified, but I hope that time will bring him back. We need to respect his decision, while hoping he changes his mind. He doesn't need my approval, but he has it!
Diane your mini rose is the most beautiful I have ever seen. I don’t grow many but they are lovely.
I LOVE LIDLE'S for their plants in NJ, bought large Philodendron selloums, Schefflera actinophylla, Peace Lillies for indoors ($12.95) and 5 gallon Camellias for the outdoors. HD has gotten too expensive for plants here.
Are mini’s the same as tea roses? I’m just curious as I have quite a few tea roses now after dividing some. The first year I bought them I decided to plant them in the ground late in the season just to see if they would come back, and to my surprise…they did! 😊 They are the prettiest little things and can’t help wonder how big they will get…does anyone know?
It is a very lovely rose! Thank you for sharing those pictures Kim.
OMG! What a gorgeous bunch of pink! I love the shading from true pink to silvery pink edges. My mom grew Pinocchio. The namesake and story make this rose extra special! I am glad Burling carries it. My DLFED2, Annie Laurie McDowell, Lauren and Purple Buttons all weathered our weeklong Arctic cold spell with zero wind chills, Kim. I frantically wrapped everything in sheets, outdoor pillows, bubble wrap, plastic sheeting,…anything I could find. My garden looked like a hoarded mess, but it survived. :) Carol
@portlandmysteryrose thank you, Carol! I can see you out wrapping your treasures! (BEEN THERE!) I'm glad they all survived. After that care, they OWED it to you! Congratulations! Kim
Gorgeous. I love everything and the fence looks spectacular. All the stone work is so romantic.
Thanks for sharing your beautiful garden with us!
Ang, it all works together so well--the roses, companions, hardscape. Your garden invites us in, and we want to stay and stay. I love the way your peonies and iris are blooming together at the same time as the roses (I've never had this happen). Highwire flyer and yellow iris--what eye popping combination that is so unique. Love it. The roses are all beautiful, but I think Silas Marner is my favorite. Thanks for showing us your very special garden. Diane
I may ask the person that bought my old house tp let me get BB. I had 5 and only one remains since they dont want roses. I was not aware if his controversial history with adolescents but I can separate the rose from the name.
WOW if mine looked like that I would keep him!!! I think its the pot situaton for me that is making him sortof meh.
I agree, Westminster. I think he wouldn't be happy in a pot. He wants to be so big! I have such limited space that I have to grow roses in pots, too... On my giant driveway 😂 I'm still learning which ones put up with bring in a half wine barrel or 15-20 gallon pot.
This is Ringo, opens yellow then turns cream and pink very healthy
The Knockout series were bred to be landscape roses - low growing, easy care plants for specific situations and for gardeners that are not rosarians :-) They are so popular and prevalent because they can be used in situations where traditional rose types - HD's poyanthas, OGR's, etc. - do not work well. Like commercial or institutional plantings that receive minimal attention or as a low maintenance, long flowering hedge.
Knockouts are not the only 'brand' of landscape rose - the Flower Carpet, Easy Elegance and Drift series are also landscape roses and all have the same free flowering, low growing, low maintenance attributes of the Knockouts.....those just tend to have been more widely marketed and publicized.
And it is just silly not to consider them "real" roses!! Of course they are! They may just not offer the same appeal to dedicated rose growers as the more standard types but they are very useful additions and very garden worthy for many situations.
Only in the last two years have there been alternatives to KnockOuts readily available. The typical homeowner goes to their big box store and in the rose section they find KnockOuts. So that's what they take home!
The good news is that KnockOut has paved the way for shrub roses which can be used as landscape plants. KO's automatically assume a nice bushy shape, unlike most of the Kordes offerings. And they don't require much pruning other than to control height.
And KnockOut's disease resistance in all colors, even white and yellow, is outstanding. I can't name another shrub rose which can be planted out in front of city hall or on a traffic island and thrive.
Other than the Drift series, other breeders have a way to go to equal the performance of KnockOuts IMHO.
Let me expand on my comment. Our local big box store is Lowe's. Every spring they load up on Knock Out Roses. For this reason I grow a bed of Knock Out's in front of my porch. I take decent care of them. Water, feed, dead head. They do fantastic. This way when I have company, they see what they can buy at Lowe's. I tell them what little I do and they go home taking just a little care of their Knock Out's. A couple of roses at a time. Everyone in the neighborhood takes just a little care of their Knock Out's and they look good all season long.
Part 2 of my little garden tour!
Varieties covered in Part 2: Scentuous, Twilight Zone,Constance, Madame Isaac Perriere, Golden Opportunity, The Impressionist, Chandos Beauty, Beatrice Juliet, Henri Delbard, Evelyn, Masora, Lavender Crush, Thierry Marx, All 4 Cherry Blossoms, Blue Moon Stone, Red Eden, Edith, Cathedral Bells, Lady Emma Hamilton,Abraham Darby
Varieities covered in Part 1:
Pope John Paul II, Double Delight, Life of the Party,Tahitian Sunset,Neil Diamond,Miss All American Beauty (Maria Callas), Bolero, Veterans Honor , Neptune, Parfum Royale , Just Joey, Moonlight in Paris,Firefighter, California Dreamin’, Memorial Day,Peach Swirl,Julia Child, Rose Sachet , The Little Mermaid, Augusta Luise,Eisvogel, Well Being, Chippendale,Pop Art, Chartreuse de Parme,Minerva, Eden, Sugar Moon
Thanks everyone for watching the videos and the sweet words. I’m very lucky to have friends that enjoy roses the same way I do!
Rosylady
Your words resonated with me. Even though we live in a more favorable climate , we still stay just as busy taking care of our plants to make them look nice.
Erasmus
I am indeed happy to move away from not only blackspot and RRD, but mosquitos, too!
Karen,
I love talking about roses, and these videos are a great outlet. I had considered just setting the roses to a music background, but I like to talk too much.
Melissa
I’ve been honing up on my video editing skills, I am using an app called InShOt which seems much more intuitive than my old app. I do enjoy learning something new, even if it is frustrating at times.
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I like seeing the full plant in people’s garden myself! I’m glad you do that in your pics as well.
Kitty
Black Baccara seems super popular here, I wonder if it has better burn resistance than other black reds
Berrypie
It is indeed Elon’s garden too, I left enough grass so we can play fetch in both directions!
Sophia:
Consider Tangerine Skies. It has been discussed here.
I have one. The hype is not hype.
I have over 40 in addition to Hybrid Musks, so I'm happy to share the love! : )) I still don't have all I want, though. Do we ever?
I hope someone has used them before and can answer your question. This is the first time I see their site. After the giant fiasco of Garden Roses this year I expect I will stick to well established trustworthy sellers only.
Per @ Ryan Coastal LA Zone 10b you have to email this shop and ask if they following Ag inspection and provided a certificate, otherwise you are putting all of us at risk.
@elenazone6 - Oh, we aren't even that far along yet. I just wanted to get an idea if they actually planned to deliver plants at all. :)