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nippstress - zone 5 Nebraska

I grew it for about 7 years and it was...fine. Kind of uneventful and not a long bloom period. It got to be about 4.5'X3' in my zone 5b/6a climate and was mostly cane hardy (not an issue for you, I realize). I didn't get much repeat if any, and I didn't find it fragrant, but don't trust my nose. The nearby Sydonie smelled heavenly, but Soupert et Notting didn't trip any scent reactions in me.

I got mine from Rogue Valley and I still see it off and on from their lists. It was disease resistant at least to blackspot and an undemanding rose, but it wasn't very interesting. It's one I don't plan to replace.

Cynthia

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bellegallica9a likes a comment on a discussion: A few fun results from minis X OGRS
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roseseek

@Heather RR (PNW 8b) are you in luck! I just happen to have Paul Barden's upload of Ralph Moore's writings which are now archived on the Wayback Machine book marked! There is no one better to learn from than the gentleman who created the American Miniature Rose market. You can't find most of his writings easily now and when you do, they are expensive. I helped a European rose friend obtain one of Mr. Moore's rose books recently and he had to pay $65 for a book I purchased from Mr. Moore nearly 40 years ago for less than $5! (No, I didn't sell him my book, but the seller wouldn't ship overseas so I received it and forwarded it to him in Germany.) Here is a treasure trove of wonder! Now, for the BEST selection of minis at the BEST prices from a marvelous source you will adore, please contact Burling at Burlington Roses and ask for both her mini and full size rose lists. Her prices are SIGNIFICANTLY "friendlier" than anyone else's and she caries SIGNIFICANTLY more varieties! burlingtonroses@aol.com https://web.archive.org/web/20161208182907/http://paulbardenroses.com/ralphmoore/contents/index.html

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jjkOC zone 10a/22, SoCal

@dianebrakefield, @rosecanadian, @kristinelegault.

Thanks for your kind words. Re: cream rose; French Lace? Chandos Beauty? I’m not sure; it was planted by the previous owner of the house. It has big thorns but they are very easy to remove. The fragrance is light and what I associate with HT. I’m really impressed by how it responded to hard pruning!

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jjkOC zone 10a/22, SoCal

@bellegallica9a Thanks for your compliments on Grandmother’s Hat! This rose is really amazing for its perfume and its been a happy pleasure growing it from just a stick. I think for potent rose fragrance, this and Munstead Wood have got to be my top two favorites!

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jjkOC zone 10a/22, SoCal

@Melissa the weather here in SoCal has been very rainy this year. Literally every Saturday for the past month it has rained! This past Saturday I finally got some work done in the garden because it didn’t rain until the evening! I am looking forward to warm weather.

@rosecanadian So sorry for your winter woes! Can’t imagine living in snow. I’d surely freeze down to the ground! ;)

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bellegallica9a likes 3 comments on a discussion: We've entered high spring (pics)
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Melissa Northern Italy zone 8


The only tree peony that I have managed to grow from seed to flowering size. It is, I think, quite a beauty, similar to its parent but pink rather than lavender. I made another attempt fall before last, and now have two miniscule babies with one chlorotic leaf apiece. I'm optimistic about them, though: peonies are tough.


Sunny yellow down at the edge of the woods. This is a golden-foliaged scorpion senna, and I'm proud of it because I discovered the parent plant on our property and propagated it. It's a good plant, flowers, and has good vigor.


Common lilac down above the shade garden. It looks rather wild and woolly because that's the reality. I like a wildish garden.

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DH prepared a planting hole for me yesterday; this is a chunk of the soil he dug up. Note that the lower part of it is nearly pure clay. We amend a lot.



Viburnum x burkwoodii, a favorite fragrant shrub, very easy, and handsome all year round. This is at the bottom of the shade garden.



Down in the woods. I bought these as English bluebells, but believe they're hybrids. Pretty, anyway, and clumping nicely.



Hard to see, but this is the double yellow Lady Banks rose up in the top of its flowering ash, luxuriously taking the sun.

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comtessedelacouche (10b S.Australia: hotdryMedclimate)

What a treat to see these gorgeous pictures of your property/ plants/ roses. Thank you so much for taking and posting them. Melissa. I know you don't find photography easy, but no-one would ever guess that from what you've shared here. <3

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bellegallica9a likes 3 comments on a discussion: Marie Pavie, Chaucer, and a Peony
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Melissa Northern Italy zone 8

Bellegallica, what zone do you live in? Your roses look very forward. I hope you get flowers from your peony, they're a plant I love. My single white tree peony has already flowered and faded, while the other tree peonies and 'Mollis' are getting ready to bloom. Late winter and early spring have passed; now high spring is here!

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Melissa Northern Italy zone 8

Bellegallica,

Wow, no wonder you're zone pushing. Mind you, are you paying attention to what does grow easily in your zone? I grew up in north Florida, possibly with similar conditions, though it was colder at that time. Do you grow ginger lilies? Datura (angel's trumpets)--not sure if they'd be too tender for you, but I suspect they'd do. If you're in the deep South, there are a lot of plants adapted to those conditions that no one else can easily grow. And warm climate roses, naturally.

P.S. Yes, I love 'Mollis', though its flowering is quite brief. It has the lovely virtue of self-seeding. Also, in my conditions it grows in poor soil and without watering or any additional care, except for occasional weeding.

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Melissa Northern Italy zone 8

Good luck with your experiments! In my case I do, not so much zone pushing, as soil pushing. Can't say I've ever had a lot of luck. But I occasionally make another try.

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jerijen

There's a bud on "Angry Juno" / 'Clara Thompson' !!!


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Mischievous Magpie (CO 5b)

This year I'm adding Forest Ranch Pom Pom, Champagne Arches, Marianne, Great Western, and Blush Hip. Plus lots of non-rose things.


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bellegallica9a commented on a discussion: What is your fattest, fluffiest, and most fragrant rose?
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I took a moment this morning to snap a picture of a Chaucer bloom. The fragrance is myrrh and to my nose smells soapy.



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Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR

I love spinosissimas. They do well here too. They are near impossible to find over here.

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Melissa Northern Italy zone 8

Another group, the Rosa foetida clan are pretty good, with the possible exception of 'Austrian Copper' which I've never been able to get launched. They're not disease prone in my conditions, and they're very enjoyable in the spring. I developed a negative idea concerning the ability of Spinosissimas to grow here which may need revising. I do love my hybrids 'Fruehlingsgold' and (I think it is) 'Fruehlingsduft', both big, handsome, fragrant shrubs.

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bellegallica9a

Rose de Rescht and Belle Isis.

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Elestrial 7a

The Alnwick Rose! I always avoided roses before discovering the DA roses at a local nursery, my idea of roses were the old sickly hybrid teas my mom grew in the shade at our house growing up that rarely bloomed

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sylviaww 9a,hot dry Inland SoCal

I still have the teas. Oklahoma was a favorite of mine, so rich, so lush, so fragrant. Also had Don Juan, George Burns, Julia Child, Tranquillity, Marilyn Monroe - sigh. We moved in 2018, taking only the teas and the two Austins, Munstead and Darcey Bussell. Also brought my three Sexy Rexys.
Even though my lot here is tiny, I’ve done what I could. Climbers: Raspberry Cream Twirl, Lavender Crush, three Renaes. Moonstone, Our Lady of Guadalupe, and Love Song do well here, as do minis and minifloras. I sp’d the Sexy Rexys, replacing them with Bolero and Full Sail. Dream Come True is fantastic. Memorial Day is probably my current favorite. I was gifted a Princess Alexandra of Kent, and I do like it although it’s not a frequent bloomer. Can’t end this without mentioning Life of the Party. What a winner!

My Lady Hillingdon is in its second year - she didn’t do much in 2023,but I have high hopes, and have given her a lot of room. I love teas, and would grow more if I had space for them,

My dad grew roses back in Staten Island. Also vegetables and, yes, figs, in zone 7. I inherited the gene.
I do miss my big yard and the citrus trees - Valencia orange and lemon - but as life goes on, I’m kinda-sorta happy I don’t have that much to do anymore. Although I have no room (famous last words), I have two new polyanthas from Burling, in pots right now, and a Fragrant Plum that will have to go in the
ground sometime.

Naturally I’m looking forward to Otto and Sons Rose Days this month, and will probably not walk out of there empty-handed. Maybe an apricot this year.

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