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I'm now three years with my GE Profile, & think it's a terrific oven. Great baker, roasts well, air fry is nice for a variety of things, has useful conveniences. It has a touch screen, but is easy to use. I was not a touch screen fan before, but some industrial designer really thought this one out well, imo. It's the 7 inch lcd one with picture display.
I realize GE Profile is a pedestrian brand, but Cafe & Monogram are basically the same oven but better styling & a few more software choices.
We found our Miele double ovens (one is a combi steam) had a very short learning curve. The interface was pretty darn easy to master. Eight years, no issues.
Hmmm, well ... I rarely use the oven timer (use my phone instead) b/c the "I'm done!" chime isn't very loud and I'm often elsewhere in the house. There is a separate "light" button outside of the touchscreen on the Pro series, so no scrolling there. I love the side-opening doors & full-extension racks so much. I think speed to get to your required temp & the evenness of temps (with a variety of convection set-ups) are also great. But, as a back-up, I'd vote for SKS. I have that 48" range top and it's all knobs and solid quality.
I thought i was set on knobs, but tried the GE touchscreen and liked it, to my surprise. Gunk can’t gum up a touchscreen the way it can a knob.
Based on value, reliability, service availability, and burner layout we went with the GE Profile and have not regretted it. The LG felt cheap to us in person.
I am also looking to purchase an induction range with exact same dilemma with choices. After researching over and over again, I chose the GE Profile https://www.homedepot.com/p/GE-Profile-30-in-5-3-cu-ft-Smart-Slide-In-Induction-Range-in-Fingerprint-Resistant-Stainless-with-True-Convection-and-Air-Fry-PHS930YPFS/312980607. Wish me luck!
I should have explained. The Twin Flex is the size of a single oven: two small ovens that add up to single oven capacity (2.8 cu ft & 2.2 cu ft).
I have a 17 yr old KA double wall oven and will really hate the day it no longer can be repaired IMO the best one I have ever owned . Have you checked out a repair I live in a small town but my repair guy fixed my cooling fan in mine with KA parts last year. for $300 . As for the replacement I would probably do the Miele with that warranty.
I do have an "old school" appliance repair guy, who has done work on this oven over the years. I have a call in for him and am keeping my fingers crossed. I have also done a quick visit to an appliance store, and it seems 30" oven cutouts are not a standard thing like dishwashers, meaning that I likely could probably not fit a miele in my current space. There was a kitchenaid oven that would probably work.
Hopefully my guy can keep this oven going, so all these bigger decisions can be put off for a bit longer.
I bought a home a couple of yrs ago that has a kitchen ceiling fan which was a first for me after 6 homes. I thought at the time that I would do away with it when I do the remodel but now after a couple of yrs of having and using it, I would never do without one. One reason is that I prefer to have the windows open and it helps move the air while I cook and keeps me more comfortable. Also a couple of times when I burnt stuff ( shhh, don't tell anyone) it was easy to get rid of the smell quicker than just using the hood vent. Design the kitchen so that you love it and are comfortable rather than what the glossy magazines show as often they are designed by people that aren't going to be living or cooking in that space!
Jennifer Hogan, did you check the notifications settings on your phone? I have a Sansung Android phone; notifications alarms are separate from phone call alarms. I usually keep phone on & notifications off, so no audible alerts from my oven. But if I turn notifications on, I get dinged all day by email & text spam & all the push notifications too. So turn on notifications to hear your oven when you need it, turn it off when you dont.
My dil loves her new 30 in Cafe all gas range, & she's a fairly demanding cook, experimenting with multi-step recipes but also cranking out quantity for her growing family. Surely the 36 in version isn't radically different? Personally, I like the bells & whistles of GE ovens (cooking modes, phone control), & the DIL, with four kids & a newborn, is discovering their usefulness too.
Since you have dual fuel capability, explore an all electric induction range. Bosch 800 or Electrolx are choices. Wolf also.
I will say from experience that having a large center island is not great when you have someone using a walker or worse, when you have 2 people using walkers.
I had a kitchen with a peninsula that generally served the same purpose as the island, but had a 5' wide opening on one side and a 6' isle between the stove and the island worked beautifully.
My sister's kitchen has 48" walkways around her island and we have had some real difficulties with my aging siblings and their walkers. Have two enter the kitchen from different sides of the island and then there isn't enough room for them to turn around and that leaves someone having to back up, also quite dangerous, or one of the non mobility impaired helping to get one of the walkers turned while the walkeree holds onto the counter.
5-6 feet wide isles saves the day.
With rack installed on lowest rail and leaving 1/8" clearance to not actually touch the upper heating coils, you have a 9 1/2" space.
@awm03 - what is the model no of your wolf please?
Wolf CI 304 CB
https://www.ajmadison.com/cgi-bin/ajmadison/CI304CB.html
We have only been in this new construction for 12 weeks so not a lot of history/experience. Have only used our non-plumbed CSO for reheating (highly recommend). Seems to want me to add water prior to each use, not a deal breaker.
I love my GE Profile. I'd planned on buying something more upscale, thinking there'd be better quality & performance. But the Profile had a feature I wanted. After three years, I'm still glad I got this oven. It bakes beautifully (convection or thermal), roasts well, and air fry is a nice cooking method too (fish, pork tenderloin, reheating breads or pizza, roasting veggies). The lcd screen is great -- good layout, quick & easy to use, beautiful picture display, even has the hourly/daily weather forecast. I just discovered I can set an unusual temperature, like 285 F, by tapping on the temperature display and entering a number manually. I like the wifi feature & app; they make the oven more convenient, especially when busy with guests or grandkids, and it's nice getting feature upgrades via wifi updates.
GE Profile 27" wall oven
https://www.geappliances.com/appliance/GE-Profile-27-Smart-Built-In-Convection-Single-Wall-Oven-PKS7000SNSS
Cafe is pretty much the same as GE Profile, just better styling & a few more menu options:
https://www.cafeappliances.com/appliance/Cafe-27-Smart-Single-Wall-Oven-with-Convection-CKS70DP2NS1
Owners like these 27" wall ovens:
- KitchenAid KOSE507EBS: Home Depot, Best Buy
- Frigidaire GCWS2767AF: Home Depot, Best Buy
HU-910663146 do you currently own a Bosch wall oven?
Hello everyone!
i wanted to give you an update on the stove conversation. You all helped seal the deal on induction. I ended up going over my budget but am could not be happier with the outcome. I lucked into a Pro Bertazonni 36 inch induction that was on a showroom floor in my city! They wanted to clearence it out to free up floor space. I love everything about it! Thank you for your persistance in letting me know the history of induction which Adam also did at Appliance Loft.
I just bought a house and replaced the radiant cooktop with a 30 inch Bosch Benchmark induction cooktop. At my other house I have an Electrolux induction range - their least expensive one eight years ago. I have a variety of cookware there - All Clad, Le Creuset and I bought an inexpensive set of Duxtop on A'zon to replace some RevereWare pieces I used from time to time. That cooktop does some clicking on lower settings - like heat on, heat off. I don't recall much of the buzzing that people mention but maybe there's some of that. At the new house I have a couple pieces of Le Creuset and a Lodge cast iron frying pan but everything else is a new set of Duxtop. I haven't used the new cooktop all that much - just had it in place for about a week - but I don't notice any kind of noise whatsoever. I don't know if the difference is the cooktop or the pans. The first Duxtop pans I got recommended not putting in the dishwasher. The new ones are dishwasher safe so maybe they're different. In any case whatever noise I've had has never bothered me and I would certainly NOT let it prevent me from using induction.
"Now all that's left to do is buy compatible cookware!"
IKEA 365+ cookware sold in collections or individually work fine on my LG induction range and don't make any noise.
Note: Induction elements have pan sensors. If the diameter of a pan is too small for the element, the element will turn off. Match the diameter of the pan to that of the induction element (6", 9", or 11") for best results.
Why not use a microwave?
I use the microwave for butter but I have a very small frypan for one egg and it works fine on my new Bosch Benchmark.
Putting it inside another pan is a brilliant idea.
My husband used to use his single cup stove top coffee maker on our Bosch 800 cooktop - no problems. It was probably 3.5 inches.