Best skirted toilet for reduced clogs?
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Am I the only one who really dislikes their Toto toilet?
Comments (81)I bought a Toto Eco Flush CST784EF for our master bathroom and it is terrible. You need to have a toilet brush scrubber by you each time you use the bathroom because there is not enough water or pressure to clean the toilet. And, it was $600. The biggest waste of money I ever spent. Go with American Standard. We bought one of those for our powder room and it is amazing for 2/3 rds of the cost....See MoreLooking for a good value toilet that won't clog
Comments (27)> what is this about the Drake II flapper? The standard flapper looks like this: That hole on the side allows it to fill with water and fall closed fairly quickly. But you can get a flapper designed for Toto's (now discontinued) low-end "Power Gravity" commodes (rather than "G-max", etc.) that is interchangable, but doesn't have the hole on the side (and sometimes a hole gap reducer on the bottom) which makes the flapper stay open longer before falling shut: These pictures are actually not of the Toto-branded flappers but rather of generic Korky replacements, but from what I read, they actually make the part for Toto, and the ones they sell under their own brand, in this case # 2022BP, are identical except for packaging, and even have "Toto" embossed on them, but are less expensive. You can also get this Korky 3060BP adjustable flapper which Home Depot sells in their stores, which lets you rotate the sleeve that opens or closes holes on its side: > I will be installing the Maris (has the same flushing system as the Drake II). Are you sure? A quick look online shows a more elaborate dual-flush setup > Your flap solution is an awfully expensive upgrade. You can get a replacement flapper for $10. > Questions: > Where did you get your information about the flap? From a plumber who has worked on these > How would I find out what kind of flap I have on the Maris? Toto's website has parts diagrams for all their current products. They show two versions of the Maris, one with a conventional tank and one with a tank that's hidden behind the wall between the studs. Both of them are dual-flush units, which I have no experience with, but these don't seem to use conventional flappers but rather a more elaborate flush valve assembly, either THU356 (regular tank) or THU322href> (in-wall tank). Note: I have not actually used this exact product on my Drake II; rather I bought the adjustable flapper to replace a solid flapper from a Gerber Viper 1.28gpf that I thought could use more water per flush, then moved the old Gerber flapper to the Toto, which made it flush using a bit more water, though I should note that it does a fine job even with 1.28gpf and I may switch back. I'm just paranoid about overflowing toilets when there's expensive new carpeting right outside the bathroom....See MoreToto-All 4 different Totos clog-HELP!!!
Comments (25)The problem is not the toilet, nor is it a problem with venting although it is so blatantly obvious that on first inspection it goes totally unnoticed by homeowners and even most plumbers, however I would bet a steak dinner that once I explain the problem all the plumbers who read these posts will slap the palm of their hand on their forehead and shout, "I knew that!" The post clearly states that all four TotoÂs were installed to replace older 3.5gpf toilets. That fact alone tells me that the house was constructed prior to the introduction of the 1.6gpf water saver toilets. Here is the answer: Prior to the introduction of 1.6gpf water saver toilets the plumbing codes mandated that all toilets must be installed on a 4" line. With a 3.5gpf flush the water level in a 4" line will fill the pipe about ½ way, which is a sufficient depth to convey the solid particulates in the waste, however with a 1.6gpf flush the water level is too low to properly suspend the solids. The solids then rub against the bottom of the pipe, retarding the velocity of flow and the water will seep around the solids, thus leaving the solids to buildup in the pipe forming a clog. In fact, in the early days of 1.6gpf toilets this is what made Toto famous because the Toto bowl filling technique and trap design resulted in a slightly higher velocity of flow than the competitors, which helped compensate for the pipe size problem. Once the problem was fully understood the plumbing codes were amended so that they now say if we install a toilet with a flush greater than 1.6gpf we must install it on a 4" line, but when installing a toilet with 1.6gpf or less we must install it on a 3" line. By reducing the pipe from 4" to 3" that effectively reduces the volume of the pipe to ½ the volume of a 4" line, which in turn raises the water level in the pipe during the flush to the prescribed 50% fill needed to properly suspend the solid particulates. Therefore, as I stated originally, the problem is not particular to the Toto toilets, it is a problem with water saver toilets in general, and understanding that we can no longer install toilets with a flush greater than 1.6gpf the only permanent solution is to change the toilet waste arm from 4" to 3"....See Moretoilet decisions - x post
Comments (0)I did a slew of research about toilets when we remodeled an upstairs bathroom 2 years ago. We ended up with a Toto Ultramax II. For the most part, we've been happy with our decision, however, cleaning the bowl is a pain due to an extra scooped out section in the outlet. DH has asked that we look at other toilets to avoid this issue when we remodel the other 2 bathrooms. I thought I had time to do my research until I realized that we will be replacing the toilet in our powder room when we redo the wood floors next month. I need to tell our GC what toilet we want to purchase asap. We want a one-piece, elongated seat, comfort height toilet. Soft close lid a plus but not critical. We'd also like streamlined sides for the base if possible. It doesn't have to be skirted, just fewer nooks and crannies to catch gunk. I read through several pages of threads and it seems that an AS might be the next best option. Pity, because we did like the looks of the Kohler Kathryn but after nearly 21 yrs of all-too-frequently clogged toilets (first gen low flow junk), we definitely don't plan to buy on looks alone. Please help me wade through toilet confusion. TIA! x-post in bathrooms forum....See Moreladybug A 9a Houston area
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